Light Green paint M-Series

[rob love]

Scotty

I think it's the olive drab you are after. The other color was the dark green, also reffered to as forest green. The forest green is similar to the color the B vehs were painted after we quit camouflaging them.

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by rob love

Scotty

I think it's the olive drab you are after. The other color was the dark green, also reffered to as forest green. The forest green is similar to the color the B vehs were painted after we quit camouflaging them.

Hey Rob,

Thats why I tossed up the photo. I require both of those "Greens" on the Ferret and 113. Was hoping he may have had both matched up. Saves me having to get my paint from 3 different places. All things being equal, if Gilles at least has the Pea/Ugly/Light/Chalky Green life is good as it seems to be the real pest to match.

Forest Green.... That damn color description seems to cover a huge spectrum of green shades

Scotty B

[Ed Storey]

Here is an image taken in Petawawa in 1980 of the three-colour camouflage on a 2CER M135CDN Field Kitchen Truck hitched to a M106A1CDN Water Trailer.

[Eric B]

Hello

The sample that Gilles was able to match came from a can of paint that i had made up by mistake a number of years ago, It was labelled Camouflage green and came from a Canadian Military standard paint code binder.

When i went back to the paint producer two years ago, they were unable to find the old CDN paint codes to reproduce it. They were able to match it again but only in gloss. They did have the codes for the current US Colours.

I have seen a sample of Gilles match and it seems to be the right colour.

I think this will be the closest we will find at this point in time. It is not labeled forest Green, which is a US colour code. Forest green is easily found.

I have not heard back from Ardvaark Sales so asume they are no longer in business.

Thanks
Eric

[Scott Bentley]

Has there been any movement on the topic of paint?

I am literally days away from paint at this point.

I'm getting tempted to take the "Federal Standard" Paint Codes that are listed on the Armoured Acorn website and see if the local Dealer can mix some up.

He has these codes listed for the 3 Color Cam from the mid 70s until CARC came into use:

FS 34098 = OD Green (Khaki Drab)
FS 34172 = Flat Green
FS 36081 = Flat Black

If you go to this site that has the Federal Standard Codes, the colors look pretty damn good compared to all of the pictures I have on hand from that era, and the vehicles in the yard here at work that haven't been CARC Painted yet.

Legacy Canadian 3 Color Cam Pattern = 34172 34098 36081

Another buddy got some great looking Flat Desert Tan made up locally, so i'm starting to get the bug.......

Scotty

[Matthew Reid]

Scotty

I have a copy of the paint chips for the 1-GP-12C colour standrds. Canada used the 1-GP-12C colour standards till 1994 when then they were withdrawn we then switched to the FS595 Standards.

FS34098 is right shade of green for the old Canadian 502-321 but quite a bit too light.

FS 34172 is actually an invalid colour in the Federal Standard Color charts.

That colour is actually FS 24172 the web sight also lists a FS 14172 but that also is not a valid color. The Federal Standard Color web site is not an offical web site but is hosted by a model airplane builder in Norway there are numerous errors in the web site so be aware.

FS24172 is close to the 503-322 standard (the light green used on the tri colour camo) but FS 24172 is a semi gloss paint and there may be no offical mixing formula avalible for a flat version of it.

FS36081 I will have to dig out the Black section of the 1-GP-12C colors chips.
As the rest of the colour specs are packed away for long term safe storage so the colours do not get corupted.


If you can wait till Friday Scotty I will post pics of the the those FS colors beside the Canadain 1-GP-12c Colour Standrds And you can see how much they are out. and then you can decide what route you wanna go. The Wife took the good Camera to Vegas and she will be back Friday so I can not do pictures till then.

Tempo Aerospace (http://tempo-aerospace.com/) can match any of the old 1-GP-12C Canadian Standard colours. Their Paint is not cheap but it is not cheap paint either.


Matthew


PS Scotty I could try colour copying the 1-GP-12C colours on to photo paper and see how they turn out and send then to you.
Let me know if you want me to give that a shot. As I have to pic up some photo paper

Matthew

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by matthewq4b

Scotty

I have a copy of the paint chips for the 1-GP-12C colour standrds. Canada used the 1-GP-12C colour standards till 1994 when then they were withdrawn we then switched to the FS595 Standards.

FS34098 is right shade of green for the old Canadian 502-321 but quite a bit too light.

FS 34172 is actually an invalid colour in the Federal Standard Color charts.

That colour is actually FS 24172 the web sight also lists a FS 14172 but that also is not a valid color. The Federal Standard Color web site is not an offical web site but is hosted by a model airplane builder in Norway there are numerous errors in the web site so be aware.

FS24172 is close to the 503-322 standard (the light green used on the tri colour camo) but FS 24172 is a semi gloss paint and there may be no offical mixing formula avalible for a flat version of it.

FS36081 I will have to dig out the Black section of the 1-GP-12C colors chips.
As the rest of the colour specs are packed away for long term safe storage so the colours do not get corupted.


If you can wait till Friday Scotty I will post pics of the the those FS colors beside the Canadain 1-GP-12c Colour Standrds And you can see how much they are out. and then you can decide what route you wanna go. The Wife took the good Camera to Vegas and she will be back Friday so I can not do pictures till then.

Tempo Aerospace (http://tempo-aerospace.com/) can match any of the old 1-GP-12C Canadian Standard colours. Their Paint is not cheap but it is not cheap paint either.


Matthew


PS Scotty I could try colour copying the 1-GP-12C colours on to photo paper and see how they turn out and send then to you.
Let me know if you want me to give that a shot. As I have to pic up some photo paper

Matthew

I apreciate any help Matt.

My goal is to be able to take a modern paint code into the local paint dealer and get something mixed up that is the 95% solution.

I've turned both Base Petawawa and Gagetown upside down looking for some original paint. No dice. Recent HAZMAT/WHIMIS regulations ensured that old cans of paint with no MSDS Sheets got biffed a few years back. Essentially i've given up on finding the "Real McCoy" paint sitting in a paint locker on a Base somewhere. All I can do now is hope to find a very close modern tint. There is a local professional paint dealer here that will make up Flat Paint for under $100 a Gallon.

I'm going to put off the priming until i've found something. But with lots of "available" 383 Green and warmer weather, temptation is killing me