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Old 20-04-10, 05:43
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Well in that case the best FS595C match to the 503-321 colour is FS34129 (a flat colour not on coloserver.net but is in the latest 595C standards) a very close match and FS14081 this is a gloss paint but is a near perfect match clour wise
Either are much much much closer than the FS34098 that is way way off compared to either of of the others

The FS24172 is very close to 503-322, 503-322 is just a bit darker.

A flat version of FS14081 or FS34129 and FS24172 should get you to the 95% mark inregards to the green.

Do you want me to take pics on Friday or Scan the colours ?

Matthew

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I apreciate any help Matt.

My goal is to be able to take a modern paint code into the local paint dealer and get something mixed up that is the 95% solution.

I've turned both Base Petawawa and Gagetown upside down looking for some original paint. No dice. Recent HAZMAT/WHIMIS regulations ensured that old cans of paint with no MSDS Sheets got biffed a few years back. Essentially i've given up on finding the "Real McCoy" paint sitting in a paint locker on a Base somewhere. All I can do now is hope to find a very close modern tint. There is a local professional paint dealer here that will make up Flat Paint for under $100 a Gallon.

I'm going to put off the priming until i've found something. But with lots of "available" 383 Green and warmer weather, temptation is killing me
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Old 20-04-10, 12:43
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Do you want me to take pics on Friday or Scan the colours ?

Matthew
A scan would be great Matt.

I'll PM you my Email.

Thanks
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Old 25-04-10, 04:06
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OK,

To make this a bit easier for me (and i'm sure others), to wrap my head around, I labelled this pic with the Paint Codes:

**Note: Borrowed photo of an MLU'ers fancy new Iltis Tub**



If anyone has any suggestions or corrections, please advise and i'll fix the pic.

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Old 26-04-10, 10:09
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Scotty I have not forgot about you.

I tried scanning the colours and it was a NO go the scanner does not like the super flat colours and does not interpritate them well at all.

I will get photos done outside in sunlight.
I will post photos here and E-mail you the full size versions.

I will take pics of the Canadian colour chips next to the FS color chips and
of each next to parts painted the correct colors. The only thing I do not have is an unfaded Item painted the Canadian Black.

The Canadian Black has 2 possibilities 501-301 which is actually the darkest shade of grey (almost black) used by the CF and 512-301 which is the ONLY shade of black used by the CF.

FS 37038 is the closest match to the 512-301 black it is basically a perfect match.

The closest match to 501-301 Dark Grey grey is FS 26044 and it is not that close.

Just as a note of Interest My CF KLR250 motor bike is painted FS34094 (383 Green)

Matthew
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Old 26-04-10, 20:09
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Pt 1

OK it is Done.

I bumped a couple other things to get these pictures done.
The pictures were done out side in bright sun light (all I had today)

The First Colour we will deal with is the Canadian Olive Drab Known as 503-321 Green

The first pic is comparing the 1-GP-12C 503-321 colour chip next to an NOS Iltis fuel Can holder. As you can see this a perfect match

The second picture is Comparing 503-321 Green to FS34098
You can see the colour is way way off.

The third picture is comparing 503-321 to FS34129 agan not a great match

The Fourth picture is comparing 503-321 to FS24129 Not a bad match but a little too brown

The fifth picture is comparing 503-321 to FS14079


Since I can only up load 5 pics at a time I will continue after posting this.

Matthew
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Old 26-04-10, 20:29
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Pt2 to continue on with the 503-321 colour

The First picture is comparing 503-321 to FS 14081

As you can see there is no really close match to this colour in the FS colors. The best bet would be to take a piece of NOS Iltis gear and have the paint colour matched.

The second picture is comparing 503-322 Green to FS 24172
As you can see this colour is pretty darn close. And would make an adquate stand in. This is the only colour in the FS colours that even comes close to matching this colour.

The third picture is comparing the 1-GP-12C 512-301 Black (the only flat black in the standards) to FS 37038 this is a near perfect match.


The only other option for the black colour of the camo scheme is 1-GP-12C 501-301 This is a very very dark grey that is near black.

The fouth pic is comparing 501-301 to FS 26044 as you can see FS26044 is too blue.

the Fith pic is comparing 501-301 to FS 15042 tthis is close but 15042 is a high gloss paint.

In the FS standards the first digit in the colour denotes the paints luster. 1=gloss 2= Semi Gloss 3=Flat or lusterless.


If any one wants the orginals of these pics PM me your Email adress and I will email them. In total they are 23MB so make sure your email server can handle the file size. Or let me know the max that can be sent at one time.


Remeber Tempo Aerospace can match any of the 1-GP-12C colours the paint is not cheap but they do supply a true CARC paint.


Matthew
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Old 26-04-10, 20:36
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Remeber Tempo Aerospace can match any of the 1-GP-12C colours the paint is not cheap but they do supply a true CARC paint.


Matthew
Matt, wow...

Thanks for the snaps. Thats excellent. Nice to see actual examples.

Refresh my memory, what was the cost per Gallon, and was there a minimum amount required to get a run done?

Scotty
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