CFTO on wirecutters for M38A1 CDN 2+3/M151A2

[BOBM35A2]

Derk,
Thanks about the nice words on the jeep. The whole jeep and project came into my hands unexpectedly. The jeep came to me with an offer I couldn't refuse. Since it is the only canadian jeep I ever ran across, I started to check out pictures and info on the jeep. For 12 months I gathered pictures and very little info. I knew the jeep was not correct in markings and paint and though at least at one time had more equipment on it. Due to several holes and welded up holes. In comes the Maple Leaf Up forum. I recieved more help than I could have wished for. I'm very appreciative to help and kind words. The jeep is suppose to be a very low budget project, since it was purchased just before I was scheduled to start my M151A1 restoration. The jeep and I are still having a difference of opinion when we hit a certain bump.
Since then 95% of the suspension has been replaced. The last 5 % will be the problem solver. I didn't want to paint the whole jeep and after just selling my 3 color Duece and a half, I liked the whole green thing.
Thanks to the forum I got good info that varified my the correct CFR # and gave me a history on the jeep. ( Thanks Craig) I concentrated on the equipment of what it had and what it should have, avoiding the color and marking issues. So now as it stands it has the MG mount ( Thanks Brian)with 1919A4 (308), Rifle holder with FNFAL, SMG holder with SMG, wire cutter
(Thanks Derk), and radio parts coming in for the radio to be mounted. Color and markings. I still have several conflicting stories, which I know doesn't mean the stories are wrong. Even more confusing is comparing the info and the photos which I have retrieved. Knowing the different commanders often order different instructions to their units, well the boss is always right. I have found a picture of a jeep like mine painted all green and the white number on the side is about 26 digits below mine. It was a military picture. I was told if the jeep was green it had a red and white flag on the cowle and didn't have black ones until it went camoflauge. Insignia's on fenders, not on fenders. Well that is where I am on the colors and markings. Nomans land. So I thought I play it safe with the green and the white CFR numbers on the dash and doors.
I waiting for someone to tell me to paint over the black flags on the fenders. I already painted over the white numbers on the bumpers and the hood.
I guess I would like some info on markings concerning the BCR Armoured Reccee. The jeep also has a gas can in holder on the driver's side front fender. When I removed the gas can the jeep had a stencil on the jeep behind the gas can that said "WATER". Any help on that. Still looking for help and appreciate what I get.
Bob M.

[BOBM35A2]

Rob Love,
So do you think it would be possible to have the black flags on my jeep? More plausable to remove the white Tire Pressure marking on it?
Bob M.

[rob love]

The black flags were more common in the later years than the red and white ones although any official orders I have viewed called for the red and whites. I ordered in a bunch of the decals back in the 90s and was going to apply them to the M35 I was issued and was told by my MWO not to. So although they were in the brigade orders, they were not really accepted.

The tire pressures were more commonly in black, but could just as easily be in white as well. If they were painted over an area that was cammed up in black, then they were usually painted green.

Re the markings of the BCRs, they would have been along the same lines as the rest of the armoured recce. If you are talking about the period after the early 70s, the jeep would have been in 3 color cam (with multi coats of paint liberally applied by brush), had the light recce tac signs front and rear, likely on the front fender and the back bumperette, and likely the letters BCR stencilled on the front and back.

A good source for this information would be to get a hold of the unit itself. (email history@bcregiment.com)They often have a museum or an archive of photos which could give you what you seek. Try and look at several photos of various vehicles for an average rather than taking one vehicle as gospel . Paint and markings were done locally and often varied greatly, even between two vehicles side by side.

[derk derin]

Hi Bob,
I have made a new thread on the M38A1 CDN2 giving the description of the jeep as well as for the M100 trailer if you wind up finding one and adding it to the jeep!
I have also included the camoflouge paint pattern for both in case one day you might want the camo paint job.
Derk.

[derk derin]

Bob,
I have come across one of the vehicle stickers.The dimensions are 3 inches high x 6 inches long.You can either make stickers from this image or make a stencil and paint it on.

Derk.