Mystery Shifter in M38A1CDN2

[Jon Skagfeld]

Bracket between seats would have been for an SMG, therefore the Ansul 5# fire extinguisher would have been dash mounted.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

The extra levers are for the winch and Power Take Off(PTO)..
Get the proper manuals from Grant Bowker..I believe this is the parts manual you require..Get the maintenance manual while you are at it..
You'll need both anyway..

#72: 594 pages CV-32 CDN. ORDNANCE CATALOGUE PARTS LIST FOR TRUCK, UTILITY, 1/4 TON, 4X4, M38CDN. TRUCK, UTILITY, 1/4 TON, 4X4, M38AICDN. (ILLUSTRATED) JULY 1957.(Includes PTO and winch)
Good luck with the new truck.

[rob love]

Without a photo, this is pure speculation. My money says it is a overdrive, which could require the relocation of the park brake handle. But the photos will say it all. You mentioned in another thread that this jeep had a crash pad installed. Sounds like it had a few civilian improvements, which makes me lean towards the overdrive vice a PTO.

[Mike Baker]

The winch and PTO - of course. I didn't think of the winch because it's one of the few things missing. And the extinguisher bracket is, in fact, on the dash so SMG bracket it is.

WRT the crash pad, I have a theory that it was actually a CF addition, albeit not one approved by Ottawa. As I also posted in a different thread, the windshield frame on this truck is light blue underneath the green and black camoflage. I suspect that something happened to the original windshield frame, and some enterprising V-tech got a CJ5 frame from the scrap yard to replace it. The pad has also been painted green (it's black underneath).

Many thanks for the answers - pics are attached below for 2nd and 3rd opinions...

[rob love]

I have never seen a PTO control mounted in the spot you show. Normally they are through the small plate that is just before the location of your park brake handle.

The winch brackets on the front of the vehicle are not stock either. And since there is green paint over your PTO lever, the vehicle has been painted since it's entry into civilian life. My money says the crash pad and windshield were add ons in it's civilian life. There were windshield frames available in the system right until disposal of the fleet, made by Mil-Quip (formerly Automobiles Rene Gagnon)

[Mike Baker]

Originally Posted by rob love

I have never seen a PTO control mounted in the spot you show. Normally they are through the small plate that is just before the location of your park brake handle.

The winch brackets on the front of the vehicle are not stock either. And since there is green paint over your PTO lever, the vehicle has been painted since it's entry into civilian life. My money says the crash pad and windshield were add ons in it's civilian life. There were windshield frames available in the system right until disposal of the fleet, made by Mil-Quip (formerly Automobiles Rene Gagnon)

In that case I'll be very interested to say what ICBC says about previous registered owners. This truck was disposed of by the CF in Chilliwack in February 1987, and has been in the back of a garage in Cobble Hill (on Vancouver Island) since at least 1988. The previous owner said that she and her husband picked it up in Vancouver (and definitely not Chilliwack), so it may have had an interesting year or so. Thanks for the info.

[rob love]

When you get a chance, show us what the extra lever attaches to. It should be a gearbox of some form on the back of the transfer case.