Ferret CFR List

[Jim Gilmore]

On second thought.....

Why would CDN Ferrets have British Reg. numbers?

Were they bought directly or did they come from the British MOD?

Seems that if they were bought by Canada on a direct contract from the Mfg. they would not have had British Reg numbers.....

If they were gotten through the MOD then perhaps Bovington would have the histories on them as it did on my Saladin.....


Jim Gilmore

Jim Thorpe, PA.

[rob love]

They did have British registration numbers apparently. On the website "Ferret Heaven" it listed all the contracts for ferret production showing both hull and registration numbers. It seems the earliest production ferrets were primarily export sales to Australia and Canada.

Somewhere I have seen a photo of a Cdn ferret with the Brit registration number on it, but I can't locate it right now. Or they may have shown a photo of a brit ferret in the article. If I can find it, the registration listings given by Scotty would confirm if it's Cdn.

I am not so sure ours had those large aluminum plates in them. I do not see any marks from where the studs would have been welded into the hull to mount it. I believe we only had the small plates with the serial numbers on them, in roughly the same location as the big plates should have been.

Hard to say why the gaps are in the CFRs listed. I passed a full listing of all the 123 Cdn ferrets and their final dispositions to Colin Stevens in BC. He has them listed on his website.

[Robin Craig]

What does the heading "HUIC" refer to on your first list?

As the current owner of two Canadian Ferrets I am very interested to figure out their real CFR etc etc.

One of the two may be for sale and you should contact me via a PM or via email (best option).

I am about to start rubbing the markings down and revealing what I find.

One of mine appears to be an exception that proves the rule.

Because the UK military registration is traceable, when I eventually get around to doing that we may become enlightened a bit more.

Now where is my Makita cordless day stretcher?

R

[Jim Gilmore]

In doing a bit of research on the Brit/CDN numbers it appears to be that the these "Canadian" Ferrets were delivered to the British Army on WD Contract 4/FV/4267 in 1951. They were given British Army registration numbers when delivered.

Then about 1954 they were transferred to the Canadian Army and given CDN numbers starting with 54-xxxxx.

I have always thought my ex-CDN Fieldmouse Mk-1 was a 1954 model year Ferret.

This is because I was told that CDN reg. numbers start with the year of the vehicle.

It now appears that it is instead, a 1951 built vehicle.

It also appears that the first numbers in a CDN Reg. number is the year the vehicle was accepted by the CDN Army and not always the year the vehicle was built.

It looks like the CDN Army received these vehicles second hand (used) from the WD.

Can anyone confirm this?

Jim Gilmore

Jim Thorpe, PA

[servicepub (RIP)]

According to Colin Stevens, in his book "The Ferret Scout Car in Canadian Service" (Service Publications) Canada, Australia and the UK shared an order for 593 MkI Ferrets in 1951, under contract number 6/FV/4267. But don't confuse a War Office contract with Britsh Army useage.
CLive

[Robin Craig]

Jim, I think I know you from the old Ferret Heaven, anyway here goes.

British made military vehicles usually had either an "MS" military sales designation registration or a conventional British Army style, so either lets say 01 MS 88 or 21 BA 35. Somewhere in the anals of officialdom there is a cross reference between all of these.

Anyhow, I have no clue why you refer to your vehicle as a "Fieldmouse", im presuming you have some rare prototype that I didnt know about obviously.

As fas as the "used" vehicle status you mention, I find that an interesting idea. The reason I say that is this, Colin mentions in his book that Canadian vehicles had square side hatches, yet one of mine, C/S 31, has sloped hatches but is such an obvious Canadian vehicle for many other reasons.

I suspect that somewhere along the timeline of production of Ferrets the side hatch changed from square to sloped and I think that the Canadian order was filled with vehicles of both types and at the time it was not a big deal to those at the factory so no special mention was made of it.

See what I mean?

Robin

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by Robin Craig

Anyhow, I have no clue why you refer to your vehicle as a "Fieldmouse", im presuming you have some rare prototype that I didnt know about obviously.

This was the name given to the Mk1 originally, it was used by the War Office in official documents at the time.