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I'd say she was a Mortar carrier.
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totally forgot Martyn.... thought they had all gone to be fair.
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That one was a scout that went through an upgade to MK 2 spec. Martyn any sign of my speedo drive ?
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Please explain how you know that?
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i could be wrong but the air ducting seems to be incorrect to be a scout carrier ?
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Hi Lynn, it was of the old hulls i sold Martyn a couple of years back. you could see where all the fixings had been when it was a scout. there had been some major upgrades done to the vehicle to bring it up to Universal spec. i have the "T" number written down some where. i hope that helps. TTFN
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In the photos, I see the blanking of the battery box wiring holes, and the rear panel, and side panel bren mount holes, which are factory blanked by riveting. This was a standard production method. This is why I say she was a mortar carrier. I would doubt that any Scouts were factory converted to MkII Universals. Scout production finished about 1938, and the first MkII Universals were produced in 1942. By this time the Scouts were lost at Dunkirk, or had gone to North Africa. Aside from that I can only think of one difinative Scout feature that MIGHT have survived in a factory rebuild. That would be the bolt holes for the air ducts, which on the Scout are curved, and on a Universal, are straight.
I believe that all other Scout features would have disapeared. I cannot see a factory halting its systemised. production to pull one old Scout to bits to rebuild it as a Universal MkII. ( I Imagine also that had this been done, then it would have been renumbered) Would they have stripped the carrier to the point of removing and replacing the gunners front plate, the hull division plate, The rear plate (that started this thread) Which in the photo looks like a standard factoy Universal installation. the side armour on the left side. etc. etc. etc. One would have to consider the order in which parts were riveted together, and then the difficulty of doing some of those operations in a different order. I am not trying to poke you in the eye Shaun. I am saying (from my limited knowledge) that it is highly unlikely, and that because you were un aware of what the differences between a standard Universal carrier, and a Mortar carrier are, that this was the conclusion that you arrived at. ![]() Pictures are Philip Hastings Scout hull, and one of the Air ducts common only to Brens, and Scouts. the last picture shows a Universal carrier air duct arrangement. Note in the Scout there is no armour plate at the outer upper corners, that is in the universals.
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Shaun, Martyn,
Are you talking about the speedo drive that goes in the rear axle? I still need the gear CTL2216 and housing CTL 2510 B2 to screw in the axle. If you are having these reproduced I would like a set. Richard is kind enough to loan me his but if you are allready making them that would be easier. Please let me know. Thanks,
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Marc i think this is a case of bits traded and swapped rather than repro bits buddy. if you take a drwing of the item to a machinist and get a quote like i say i am happy to ship mine over to you, but i would need it back.
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Hi Marc,
Just trying to get some parts back. enough said. |
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no problems matey i will get the drive out of the garage when i go in for the piccys of my fuel tanks for Jordan. it wont be until wednesday / thursday this week though.
so its the drive gear and brass adaptor which go into the diff housing ?
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