Carrier found in Norfolk yesterday 21/12/2010

[kevin powles]

Shaun, Thanks for showing us the carrier today, I have already half finished that linkage cover, curious to know if the grenade box wood inserts are the same for both the lid and the base?. you opened that box yet?.

Oh, On the way home through the hedge I spotted these, took a picture thinking they were carriers, turned out to be german junk so get on driving.

kevin

[shaun]

they are not worth doing ! ha ha ha

good to see you today, just waiting for the grenade box to defrost before i try and get into it.

[RichardT10829]

was that through the bush of Narnia that leads straight to poland i would love a panzer or Stug woah yes

[colin jones]

So ! is that it? 1 photo of over the fence then ask us if we want some lollies and then say you aint got any. How about post that german junk to adelaide please.
Colin.

[eddy8men]

the german tanks were burried as a static defence line in southern bulgaria and pretty much forgot about until an enterprising bulgarian major and 2 german civvies dug one up and flogged it, they then went back for another and got caught. the major got 4 years in the klink but the 2 germans did a runner, following this the bulgarians dug up the tanks and sold them at auction in 2007 but i'm sure there's plenty still over in bulgaria, i often wonder what you could find if you went into some of the mountain ravines, the kind of places were it would be uneconomic to recover scrap !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfR-iDufq8Y

eddy

[shaun]

but its only German stuff - we have carriers in our hedge rows

[kevin powles]

Here's a few detailed, i hope shots of shauns carrier, firstly the manual data plate, the nealing cushion on the tool box, the parts manual gives details of the cushion felt pad size, the canvas material is the same as the seat covers, lastly the rear seat back pad.

I borrowed from shaun a grenade box base wood insert which i'm going to replicate, shaun, i will make you three up, the lid has a piece of wood with felt pad, details can be found elseware on this forum.

I will post up some pics of the linkage cover, not easy to make.

Kevin.

[kevin powles]

Shaun, I have finished the cover and re-furbished yours, The original cover is basically three pieces of metal, The main contoured part is pressed out on a machine, the protruding flap arrangement is welded on as is a small piece of metal on the inside of the handbrake cutout.

If you are going to make this you need an original in your hand to copy. The cover is held in place by four bolts, one of those bolts also attaches through one hole for fixing down the brake pivot triangle floor bracket, hence a counter sunk 3/8" goes through. I have rounded over the protruding flap since taking the pictures

I can see why so many carriers dont feature this cover as to remove and replace it, you need to have two men one to stop the bolts turning as you tighten the nuts under the carrier.

I will bring yours back over next week once the grenade wooden holders are finished.

thanks for the loan, kevin.

[RichardT10829]

so when does the reproduction run start Kevin

[kevin powles]

Rich, As soon as you borrow the cover off Shaun!,

Love to make more but got just to much else to do on the mortar carrier.

Kev.

[shaun]

Kevin, nice job on the cover. I think there is a que forming to borrow it. did not realize how rare they were.

Anyway i dropped the hull off at the blasters yesterday, it was a tad on the wet side so i hope its dry when i get it back next week. Here are a couple of photos of it looking all loanly awaiting blasting.

[eddy8men]

that's a nice bit of fabrication there kevin, i was just trying to figure out how i could do it with a sheet metal folder but it would probably end up looking like a dogs hind leg but then again it would go well with the rest of my carrier

eddy

[shaun]

Picked up the carrier hull from the blasters, next is to cut out the metal moth and make good. only 200 rivets to do !!!!

[RichardT10829]

I has been a busy bee when it comes to rivetting PM me your mobile and i will send you a cheeky pic....I has a cunning plan that may save you a lot of time !

[Marc van Aalderen]

Originally Posted by RichardT10829

I has been a busy bee when it comes to rivetting PM me your mobile and i will send you a cheeky pic....I has a cunning plan that may save you a lot of time !

Now you've made me curious mate! Come on, show us you're cunning plan!

Cheers,

[Lynn Eades]

I second that!

[shaun]

Originally Posted by RichardT10829

I has been a busy bee when it comes to rivetting PM me your mobile and i will send you a cheeky pic....I has a cunning plan that may save you a lot of time !

Richie, the photo came through fine. an interesting idea. Ben has found a good riveter over his way who thinks a carrier is an easy job compared to the stuff he normally does so im going to get him to smack the 200 in for me.
i do like your thinking though, veery tidy job ( i bet thats got the rest of you guys pondering - its up to Richie to blow the cover on his machining)

[RichardT10829]

I discussed this with Kevin last year but the prep work was labour intensive i have made a jig to go into a lathe so can turn them out by the bucket load now. I failed miserably to form the heads on the rivets on the outside of the hull correctly (truss head) so decided it was a toss up between countersink and rivet frenzy or some machine work.

will get some pics tomorrow and post them up.

[eddy8men]

i was going to use coach bolts to put my radiator armour back on, they look identical to rivets, infact if you were picky you could bash the bolt head to give it the abused rivet look. the big advantage is of course nuts and bolts are easy and can be removed and refitted as many times as you like, there's also the cost to consider as 200 coach bolts will cost you about £50. the down side is you will be able to see the nuts on the inside but don't worry if you're at a show and someone starts to critisize your nuts just knock 'em out, put 'em in the drivers seat with a tin hat on and say it's part of your display

eddy