Carrier Data plates

[rob love]

Originally Posted by derk derin

Rob,
I just had a look at my carrier and my rear hull number is 3828.What kind of data should I put down for the data plate to be made for my carrier?

MODEL- UC MK-1
SERIAL- HULL-3828
ENGINE-
CD- BUILT-

Because my carrier is a fairly early production,the CD number should be the same as a carrier with a close lower hull number and build date?
I just had another look at your info and carrier #2 shows a hull number of 3698 and the serial number is 980 digits higher to 4678.Should I go with this pattern and put down a serial number of 4808? Your info shows it made in 9-42.Would it be correct for me to use this as a build date for mine also?
What do you think?
Derk.

Your math sounds about right on the serial number. Engine number would be around TL382X. I don't have a lot of data about the contract numbers, just the one I posted above. Perhaps you will luck in and find someone else who has a carrier in your serial range and get their contract number.

[Ralph Volkert]

Here is my list of carriers (candian I believe). Still not sure of difference between CT and T numbers. Thought CT was canadian and T was british. If so might explain discrepancy in listings.

I have already added the numbers recently posted. Rob could you double check your numbers.

Any one else I would love to have your numbers to add to this list. please mail to me and I will keep this list updated.

For Those of us who have to extrapolate missing info this should really help.

[Jordan Baker]

HI Ralph

Great list. I see you have my carrier on there as "CT51176". It should actually be "T51176"

I also found a T51101 not too far from me. It had a date of March,42 on it.

According to Nigel Watsons list they should be under contract CDLV213 as anti tank carriers. This might explain why the have "T" #'s and not "CT" However to muck it up even more "T51101" was a standard UCmk1* with most of the bits still on it. There was nothing done to it to ever suggest it was an anti tank carrier at some point.


Now trying to figure out the info for my data tag set. This is all I have that was stamped onto the top of the front armour. Can you guys help me come up with the rest of the info I'd need for my plate.

"T 51176 4 1942 Ford 6472"

[rob love]

Good list Ralph. All the numbers on my paper match your list. Any consideration to adding the CB numbers to your list?

I will post the data off my carrier's serial plate which I'll collect when I am in the shop today.

Derk: Ralph's list seems to answer your question re your contract number: CD213 seems to be common for all the first 12,000 or so carriers.

[derk derin]

Hi Ralph,
Thanks for posting the list,it confirms to me I can use CD-213 on my plate and Rob's data showing a serial number 3698 built in SEPT 42 and George's data plate showing a serial number 10319 also built SEPT 42 confirms to me that my carrier was built in SEPT 42.
Rob's data on carrier hull #3698 and serial #4678 - 980 digits apart:
George's data on carrier hull #9305 and serial #10319 = 1014 digits apart.This tells me my serial # range can be roughly 1000 digits apart from my hull number.
I need an engine number.Rob you mentioned I should have a TL 382-X or should it have a 4 digit number? I am almost done!
Thanks for all the info,
Derk.

[Jordan Baker]

Ok so the info I have for mine is T 51176 4 1942 Ford 6472

CT# T51176

Model UC MKI*
Lower Hull Number ???
Upper Hull Number CB ???
Serial Number ???
Build date April 42

Engine Serial # TL-????

C.D. 213

Which field does the "6472" fit into. And can anyone shed some light on some of the other numbers. Im sooo confused.

[derk derin]

Ralph just cleared up the issue of my BUILD date being in the MARCH 42 range of carriers.Rob are you sure your build date for carrier #3698 is 9-42 or 3-42.
Derk.

[rob love]

I think I see where the confusion is coming from on this carrier. I only have the data that Gordon Falk and I wrote down when we were salvaging stuff from the carriers. Gordon actually had the good sense to do this. I have the original scribblings somewhere on one of the old carrier postcards from the RCHA museum. I'll see if I can find it.

Anyway, what I suspect, looking at the typed out sheet, is that the -9-42 is missing the first digit before the -, which would have been the month. So the carrier could well be something earlier.

Derk: TL 382-X: I meant for the X to be some other digit on the end. It would appear that it could be within 20 of the hull number. So, for instance, TL3825 would be approximate to your engine number.

[George McKenzie]

This is one set of mixed up numbers .and little information ,but if we can post enough numbers we can solve this thing our selves .Thanks for the info sofar . this is what I know

Lower hull number at the back This is not on your plate but can be the same as your serial number or close to it ( my MK11) is the same CB number behind the gunners head Is less than the lower Hull number about 100numbers or less
HULL number about 500 less than the CB number or 100 more than the lower hull number
SERIAL number on the top right end of the front armor .read from the front.
Can be same as the lower hull number or up to 1000 different more or less
ENGINE number TL xxxx - F any where form 3 to 2000 over the lower hull number
CD A number the GOVE used to order a groupe of carriers also shown as WD number
BUILD DATE If you have 7 numbers for you CT number the last number will give you the month .You will have to compare other carriers to get this info
CT number is like a license number Painted on the sides and stamped on the front armor up to 6 numbers ect: CT25848.4 the 4 is MAR year
Front armor reading from the front should look like this ( serial)# 1944 APR CT25743.4 Nigel Watsons book VOL 1 has WD numbers and contract numbers Hope this is clear as mud will give you a start for your numbers George