Humber Scout Car Ford Lynx same wheels?

[MKarnowka]

For those in the know, are the type of wheels used on the Humber Scout Car the same as those fitted to the Ford Lynx or are the Lynx wheels the same as those on the 15 CWT trucks? Thanks, MK

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by MKarnowka

For those in the know, are the type of wheels used on the Humber Scout Car the same as those fitted to the Ford Lynx or are the Lynx wheels the same as those on the 15 CWT trucks? Thanks, MK

The wheels on a Humber scout car are peculiar to Humbers only, having a five sided hole in the centre to fit over the hub. The Lynx, is the standard WD Pattern 16" divided rim, as on 15cwt I believe.

[lynx42]

Wrong Richard,
The Ford Lynx has the SIX stud wheels just like the HUP and C8AX, not the 8 stud wheels found on the C15/C15A and F15/F15A.
Regards Rick.

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by lynx42

Wrong Richard,
The Ford Lynx has the SIX stud wheels just like the HUP and C8AX, not the 8 stud wheels found on the C15/C15A and F15/F15A.
Regards Rick.

Ah, thanks Rick, it was just the "15 cwt" bit that I got wrong

To add to the original question, the Humber had 9.25-16 tyres and the Lynx had 9.00-16. Odd that it may sound, but the 9.25 was a smaller tyre than the 9.00

[lynx42]

Wrong again, Richard. (Gee, that would be a first, wrong twice).
The Ford Lynx also had 9.25x16 run-flat tyres as the original standard fitting. And yes, they are a smaller than the 9.00x16 tyres. Bit hard to find today.

[Jason Ginn]

Originally Posted by lynx42

Wrong Richard,
The Ford Lynx has the SIX stud wheels just like the HUP and C8AX, not the 8 stud wheels found on the C15/C15A and F15/F15A.
Regards Rick.

Hi Rick,

The Lynx I used six bolt (8cwt wheels) but the Lynx II used eight bolt (15 cwt wheels)

Pics of Lynx II with 15cwt rims:http://www.primeportal.net/apc/paul_...dex.php?Page=2

Also, I noticed that the Canadian Army "Vehicle Data Book" published in 1944 lists the tires as 9.00x16's for the Lynx and 9.25's for the Humber. Could this have been a change between the Lynx I and II? Unfortunately I don't have copies of the of the Lynx manuals so I can't verify this.

J

[lynx42]

What a fantastic walk around of a totally unmolested Ford Lynx. Thanks for that. Interestingly it is in a South African Museum and wasn't receiver by them until August 1946 ex.Italy. I think that it is actually a MK.111, not a MK.11.
ie. heavier axles and no armoured roof.

I will stand corrected as to the number of wheelstud on a MK.111. That Lynx is one of the last and it is the first time I have ever heard of the 8 stud wheels.

Here in Australia, we received 170 under Lend-Lease, all of which had 6 stud wheels. The majority were Lynx MK.11's and all came with the armoured roof. I have the last one registered in the Australian ARN's. 123980. It is hull number 1726. (ARN= Australian Registration Number Book.)

I have just been through the complete listing for all 170 which Australia received and they are all listed in the ARN's as Ford Canadian Scout Car Mk.111. (That is strange as the one at Pukapunyal is certainly a Mk.1 and all the others MK.11's)

The earliest hull out of the 170 is hull number 240 issued to the 4th Motor reg. 1st Armoured Div. and the newest is hull number 2025 issued to 3rd Armoured Div. there is no rhyme or reason in the numbers, they are as they came through the gate in any old order and then numbered consecutively from 123810 to 123980. (170).

Regards Rick

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by lynx42

Wrong again, Richard. (Gee, that would be a first, wrong twice).

Rick,

After Jason's post, seems we are both right The one I was thinking of was the Lynx II .....so reckon you owe me a beer

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by lynx42

I have just been through the complete listing for all 170 which Australia received and they are all listed in the ARN's as Ford Canadian Scout Car Mk.111. (That is strange as the one at Pukapunyal is certainly a Mk.1 and all the others MK.11's)

Rick,

I understand the Canadian Scout Car Mk.III* was in fact the Ford Lynx I, maybe this will explain the ARN listing for you.

[lynx42]

Now Richard, I'm even more confused.
How does a Canadian Scout Car Mk.III* become a Ford Lynx I?

I'm looking forward to having a beer with you at the Corowa Swim-In.
Rick

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by lynx42

Now Richard, I'm even more confused.
How does a Canadian Scout Car Mk.III* become a Ford Lynx I?

Hi Rick,
It does sound confusing, I have to say. Check out Bart Vandeveen's Directory. My take on this is ...., The Canadians were issued with Scout Car MkI (Daimler) and Scout Car MkII (Daimler), then the Lynx I arrived, so the Canadian Defence Dept refered to it as Scout Car MkIII*. I think I am correct in saying the asterisk denotes Canadian manufacture as with Carriers.
Of course there was another Scout Car MkIII, the final version of the Daimler, but that was mid 1945, several years later. Bart shows the Lynx II, but there is no reference to the "Scout Car Mk ..." nomenclature for that one.

Perhaps it will make more sense after a few VB's