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05-03-11, 23:13
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Why an Iltis?
Given that the MUTT had too be replaced and Canada needed a light reconnaissance vehicle, how many choices of vehicles could they pick from. At that time the Goverment was trying to have military vehicles assembled in Canada. That would shorten the list of available choices, perhaps the Iltis was the "best" deal they could get.
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05-03-11, 23:58
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Mutts were actually on the short list at the time. A later version had the CF choosing the best 600 Mutts, and replacing only the M38A1s. In the end, it went to all Iltis as we know.
The old MLVW bulletins covered a lot of the Iltis procurement stages. I have most of the set downstairs. Interesting reading.
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#3
06-03-11, 01:41
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iltis
ok given that there are not many of the iltis jeeps floating around, i still think its a little ridiculous if the price one day sky rockets into vintage land rover prices , which i see happening
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#4
23-03-11, 15:52
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re Iltis prices, notice two M38a1s currently on the net apparently a Cdn 2 and a Cdn 3 (listed as a 1975 model?!) unrestored but appear from the photos to be in good shape
listed @ 5600 $ and @ 7500 $ reference comparison to Iltis prices
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#5
24-03-11, 00:52
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Kris, I never see the price of Iltis skyrocketting as you say...
Yes there are fewer of them around than the comparative M38A1 series jeeps. Another point is that an Iltis is not a Jeep, nor should it be referred to as one. Collectors should be knowledgeable enough to realize a difference from the ideology of the general public and their perception that every small 4 wheeled mv is a Jeep...  Another thing that I must point out is this; rarity does not equal value in all cases. While rarity does factor into the value equation, collectability and condition actually plays a bigger part. If I may illustrate this with an example; An old baseball card that is very rare because the player was a no-name who never went anywhere in the League and is in tattered and torn condition is almost worthless. Why? 1) who was this guy and what did he do? 2) does anyone care? 3) how many were made? 4) the condition is terrible 5) has a price precident been set on like examples? I would consider the old AMC Pacer to be relatively "rare" as well but don't see too many around, let alone be highly sought after by car collectors either... 
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#6
24-03-11, 04:04
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Conversly, the most mass produced Jeep (MB/GPW) usually command the higher end of the Jeep world prices.
Supply and demand: you have to have both. And generally, demand on mil vehs ties in to their roles in history.
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#7
29-03-11, 03:30
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Have you seen that one....
....and you think Iltis-sisses are expensive...
Nice looking Jeep... http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ270572483 Bob
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