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Old 24-03-11, 07:42
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That is what I am thinking too
Restoring to as supplied status
Mostly trying to work out what components were supplied when delivered
Appears to me by various photos seen that the Ford and Chev floor plates for the gun tractors are different .
Chevs seem to have the full width floor pan and the beetleback body just slid straight over it
The Ford ones however appear to be cut in around the centre section of the beetleback chassis(On mine checker plate has been welded in to these areas at moment)
My biggest dilema is that if restored to this floor pan configuration no seat would be able to be fitted and the vehicle would pretty much only be useable as a static display
A very boring and sad state for an old girl
Attached is a few pictures of Loyd's cab 12 in gympie showing floor pan and beetleback seats attached to body
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Old 24-03-11, 08:19
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That cut out would make seating rather difficult. Interesting to see how much higher the seating position is in an early FGT compared with the standard cab, around the same height as a cab 13, but with the pedals relatively lower.

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That is what I am thinking too
Restoring to as supplied status
Mostly trying to work out what components were supplied when delivered
Appears to me by various photos seen that the Ford and Chev floor plates for the gun tractors are different .
Chevs seem to have the full width floor pan and the beetleback body just slid straight over it
The Ford ones however appear to be cut in around the centre section of the beetleback chassis(On mine checker plate has been welded in to these areas at moment)
My biggest dilema is that if restored to this floor pan configuration no seat would be able to be fitted and the vehicle would pretty much only be useable as a static display
A very boring and sad state for an old girl
Attached is a few pictures of Loyd's cab 12 in gympie showing floor pan and beetleback seats attached to body
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Old 24-03-11, 10:30
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here is a couple more shots of the floor in Lloyds gun tractor during restoration. (photos by me )
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Old 24-03-11, 10:40
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here is a second factory photo shot from Service Publications disc of factory photos showing the GT from the front. While this does not show the floor pan it does show no windscreen.

I would say the the chassis and running gear was 'As Per' a full truck with the only body parts being a flat faced cowl with doghouse and dash plus the floor pan. You could rig a bracket to support a seat where the floor cut out is
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Old 24-03-11, 11:21
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Thanks Cliff and Keith

Would be great to get the actual evaluation photos from delivery
I am sure they would be around unfortunately probably buried in a archive facility somewhere

Will have to start looking for parts to suit
Thus far will be requiring
-Grille
-Radiator
-Divers helmet distributor
-front and rear early fairleads
Please PM me if able to help
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Old 24-03-11, 13:59
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Hi

Here is a link to Hi Res Photo inside of Bill Greggs taken in 1984 think this is the Chev note dash, will look for more photos
First photo http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.com/CMP84.htm image 134 then click on the picture to enlarge and you should get a little magnifying glass cursor which will blow the picture up to max size.
Direct link to photo http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...0CMP%20134.jpg to other photos.

These are large files so don't try on a dial up connection.

Second link http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...ationShare.htm

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Old 25-03-11, 03:52
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Default No seats.....

I have had a close look at the various pictures od Ford trucks parked in various Canadian staging areas....usually a mix of F15...15a...F30 some long frame 4 and 6 wheel....... they are hard to enlarge but from what I can see none had any driver's seat fitted...... how they moved them around is a mystery...... there is one large group picture of mostly cab 11.... and most trcuks have the smallish hood removed..... the few FGT have no seat....

FInally is here is one from a cab 12....same issue.... standing room only..

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