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my early mk1* has the same type of axle, it also has british style headlights, instruments and pedals. i understand that early on, the canadians did not have all their own components to assemble the carriers and relied on the british to supply certain parts until their production could catch up.
eddy
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I think it was more that Britain could not meet its own needs, and came up with a deal, where they supplied the various components (mainly electrical), and Canada put those bits in hulls that Ford of Canada built.
If you dont own or havent seen Nigels books, I think you will find them facinating. I highly recommend them to anyone with an interest in carriers.
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I thought that axle flat was there to accomodate a cold 1 pint glass of beer whilst working on the rear of the carrier, co's that's what i was using it for today and it works quite well!.
Lynn, I will check for numbers over the bank holiday weekend, the data plate holes for this one are on the front drivers wing. ![]() Kevin.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Rich, I like dark beer most 'Adnams broardside' is the best.
Because this is an early carrier 1939 to 1941, I am going to paint it in the Caunter pattern for it to be different. I would be interested to have details you gathered together when reserching this Richard.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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I think as part of the Brit specifications, thats where they all were.
The early Canadian ones were also on the right front guard (wing) until they changed the location. (I think the Canadians worked out that the front guards took a hammering, and often needed to be replaced,so that having the I.D. plate mounted on an item with a short life , was a mistake)
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Lynn, You really do have alot of carrier parts there, that first data plate is that Canadian ?. You dont happen to know of any data plates going spare, are they made of brass ?.
Kevin.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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Its more that I keep a lot of images. No I dont have any spare. I could do with one for my AOP, and for a Canadian Universal. I do have however an original 3 inch mortar carrier plate. I think both these plates are Ex Brit carriers.
The one I have for my LP Bren is also a copy. Yes they are made of brass/ bronze/ gun metal/ brassy looking metal or what ever. If you need a plate, and you are happy with a copy, I may be able to borrow one and have it copied. Let me know, and I'll do some research.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Thanks lynn, would like to get a Canadian data plate for this carrier if it looks the part. I guess all I need to find out is the W.D. number, this carrier also has the rements of some info on the drivers side armour, anyone know the best way of bringing this out to see it more clearly.
I would like a plate Lynn. Thanks Kevin.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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Kevin. that caunter pattern is incorrect mind so dont use it.... you need to get in touch with Mike Starmer, there are two whole books just about the use of Caunter pattern. mine is still young enough (in war time) to have it but my grandads regiment were re forming in scotland when alamein etc was going on... then after 42 and alamein caunter was phased out and desert ZI pink was introduced. carriers look savage in caunter IMHO maybe some day after i have displayed mine in sicily colours i will number the hull correctly (and not 10829) and splash her up in caunter !
what colour are you doing the mortar ? that would be nice in desert base with black disruptive hint hint......just trying to get Shauns Mk1 the same so we can have a sicily campaign battle group ![]()
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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If you carrier turns out to be a Canadian one built for Canada, then Bob Carrerie posted this picture previously. You may be able to put his arm up his back, a little, and have him copy it. A bit of "plasticine" fills in the numbers to make a blank plate.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Hi, The cam drivers cover is held by two countersunk bolts which use the same holes as the bottom cam plate cover. There is a retaining plate (pretty rusted out) which bolts to the front with 1/4 bolts which I have removed but are tacked welded to the cover, this retaining plate must clamp the canvas in place.
kevin
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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Hi, This was painted on the side of the early canandian carrier, have asked a few people, seems C.S.R. could stand for Canadian Scottish Regiment.
Seems it could say this, there may be more letters before the 'B' and the CT number could be wrong. B/M.G./C.S.R. CT 434405 can anyone help?. Kevin.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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Shaun, Yes thats the number we thought was there, but after looking at the photo's in photoshop and playing around with the pics, changing the tint, colour, sharpness etc, it could be this but with the 4 on the end.
too many didgits for an early CT number, maybe not a CT number?. Kevin.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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Hi, Received the new carrier project today, wife is unaware as I have it at a secret location, strip the hull and grit blast after Christmas.......cant wait to get stuck in. Video link of off loading below.
http://youtu.be/Vh_ixOhgmPg kevin.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. Last edited by kevin powles; 23-12-11 at 02:14. |
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