Removing a bogie from the axle...

[ajmac]

All good advice, thanks.
You wouldn't believe the hardship in removing parts when a vehicle has been on a firing range. A component will look fine, untouched, then in some out of the way place there is a small schrapnal mark that makes disasembly a nightmare. The bogie retaining collar looked fine, but on close inspection there was an impact that went right through to the shaft welding the whole thing together! Now I know there is a brass bush inside I have a warmer feeling about it all

The bogie is original and Loyds had the same part number as UCs, interestingly post war the Belgians must have used up old Windsor stock and the track and two wheels on each side are Windsor items! In the photo the right hand wheel is Windsor with the wider rim and push on tyre.

[Lynn Eades]

There are two bronze bushes, 1 inner and 1outer, with a gap in between for grease. they push into the bore from each side. there is a shoulder on the end of the bushes to locare them. Thanks for the heads up on the parts compatability. It leaves me wondering what the set of springs I have are for. They are longer than UC springs, but are wound from a smaller dia. wire. Maybe a different model, or earlier Loyd.
On that note, can you post a picture from your parts book of the fan extention, generator etc.

[ajmac]

The parts book is incorrect in terms of the specific images used for the fan drive (shows UC), however the engine images are correct. It shows UC parts, but the engine is from a 7V and uses all the normal truck parts, however the fan is a special. Attached is an original wartime photo of a Loyd engine, you can see it is the same as the 7V 'Instruction Manual' picture that I scanned in. The dual pully and fan bolt directly onto the Dynamo shaft.

Perhaps people can ID the springs used: Inner = TL1386, Outer = TL332

Interestingly on the same page of the parts book it lists the road wheels, five different types! All part No: TL1572A, listed under this as drawing refs is: TL94 (obsolescent), TL14702/1, TL14702/2, TL14722/1 & TL14722/2, presumably if we could find these drawings one of them would be the wheel with the round holes....
Return rollers: TL986SA or TL860SA with various wheel options on drawings: TL14061, TL14752, TL14762/1 & TL14762/2

[Dave Schindel]

I got mine apart using the method Rob Love used.Remove the grease fitting and any bolts/collars etc. that are visible.Soak with a GOOD penetrating fluid while spreading the clamping parts with a chisel or screwdriver.May take a few days but is better than damaging good parts.

[RichardT10829]

i got mine off by utilising the grease nipple method except i used a high psi grease pump and literally forced the grease in until it came out of either end, then with the hull jacked up rocked the bogey assembly until it began to move..... if you can get the front steel collar out you have pretty much cracked it as it is this i found that rusts onto the stub.

obviously it is a million times easier to do this job when the tube is in the hull.... you dont have this luxury... i would adopt Kevins approach and let the weight of the bogey do the work for you, if you are short of Pen oil i would fill it with diesel or AT fluid both have fantastic penetrating propertys

[Lynn Eades]

Re your P.M.
Universal carriers have front springs and rear springs.
Front outers;
10 1/2 coils, 10.22 to 10.42" long. TL332
Front inners;
13 1/4 coils, 9.09 to 9.19" long TL331

Rear outers;
9 3/4 coils, 9.4 to 9.6" long TL126
Rear inners are the same as front inners.

The part numbers are often stamped at the ends of the spring.

Alistair I have some (as previously mentioned) longer lighter outer springs that I thought were Loyd springs.
I have also taken longer, lighter inners from U.C. suspensions. I am keen to have you list the specs of the Loyd springs eg TL 1386 which is probably a Loyd part.