MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Restoration Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 30-08-11, 16:38
Paul Singleton Paul Singleton is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Yarker Ontario Canada
Posts: 514
Default coil bracket

Hello David,

I tried to post yesterday but I see that my post never appeared. Here is a picture of the coil mount in a Ford Pick up that my be easier to fabricate if you have the room under the hood.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg flathead coil.jpg (76.5 KB, 37 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 30-08-11, 17:53
Grant Bowker Grant Bowker is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 2,323
Default Cooment on illustrations in parts (or maintenance) manuals

Be cautious when relying on the illustrations in parts (or maintenance) manuals. I base this on the Chev manuals where I have seen some of the identical illistrations used in manuals published for civilian pattern vehicles before there were any CMPs. In other words, they did an earlier version of copy and paste or diagram recycling. Some are trustworthy, some are questionable and some are outright misleading, at least for Chevs and I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened at Ford given the pressures to get information out quickly, using the least manpower possible.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 30-08-11, 19:50
david moore david moore is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 360
Default Coil Mount

Hi Paul
What is the bracket actually attached to? Cant see in the picture.
Cheers
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 30-08-11, 23:09
Keith Webb's Avatar
Keith Webb Keith Webb is offline
Film maker, CMP addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: HIGHTON VIC
Posts: 8,218
Default Manuals

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant Bowker View Post
Be cautious when relying on the illustrations in parts (or maintenance) manuals. I base this on the Chev manuals where I have seen some of the identical illistrations used in manuals published for civilian pattern vehicles before there were any CMPs. In other words, they did an earlier version of copy and paste or diagram recycling. Some are trustworthy, some are questionable and some are outright misleading, at least for Chevs and I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened at Ford given the pressures to get information out quickly, using the least manpower possible.
Good point Grant, but in the case of the driver handbook the illustrations came from it is entirely accurate for a cab 13 Ford. The handbook it came from is the
F15-HB1. I have some NOS copies of this book available for $A50 each plus postage if anyone is interested. Many of the illustrations apply to most of the Ford cab 13 CMP range.
The other bracket with the original type coil is a pressed steel unit which is mounted using two bolts on the valley cover.
The ignition resistor is mounted next to the voltage regulator.
__________________
Film maker

42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains
42 FGT No9 (Aust)
42 F15
Keith Webb
Macleod, Victoria Australia
Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 31-08-11, 02:26
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
Bluebell
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Tauranga, New Zealand
Posts: 5,541
Default David

As nobody else has answered, Yes you need the external resistor with the Ford coil. The Ford coil is in fact a 4.5 volt coil in a 6 volt system, hence the need for the resistor. It might last a while on six volt, but will probably fail.
Tony Smith posted here some time back saying something to the effect that; The Ford coil is unreliable, even NOS ones are the same due to deterioration internally. You are better off with a modern replacement. (this is my recall)
__________________
Bluebell

Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991
Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6.
Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6
Jeep Mb #135668
So many questions....
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 31-08-11, 02:37
Keith Webb's Avatar
Keith Webb Keith Webb is offline
Film maker, CMP addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: HIGHTON VIC
Posts: 8,218
Default Resistor

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn Eades View Post
As nobody else has answered, Yes you need the external resistor with the Ford coil. The Ford coil is in fact a 4.5 volt coil in a 6 volt system, hence the need for the resistor. It might last a while on six volt, but will probably fail.
Tony Smith posted here some time back saying something to the effect that; The Ford coil is unreliable, even NOS ones are the same due to deterioration internally. You are better off with a modern replacement. (this is my recall)
You are absolutely correct, the original Ford coils in my experience are unreliable due to age deterioration. I must admit though, the brown bakelite design is very neat.
__________________
Film maker

42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains
42 FGT No9 (Aust)
42 F15
Keith Webb
Macleod, Victoria Australia
Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 16:50.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016