T16 restoration starts in earnest

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by andrew honychurch

. I have to make some new oil cooler pipes for both the engine and diff coolers. These are 1/2 in steel and have double flared ends. The curves are intricate and sharp. I cannot see that I can bend 1/2 in copper nickel and even if I do I have not got a man enough flaring tool for 1/2 in. I priced up the latest Sykes Pickavant tool but its over £250 just to make up some pipes as a one off. Ummmh. Anyone know whether trucks use steel air piping at this size? My thought being that if they do, some friendly fitter may be able to make my pipes for me? Anyway, hope you enjoy the photos.

Hi Andrew,

You could try Pirtek, near Ashford Market, they are hydraulic pipe specialists, not just hoses.

I have a Sykes flare set, but not sure if it goes to 1/2", will check tomorrow.

regards, Richard

[andrew honychurch]

hi Richard. you ok? thanks for the idea on Pirtek. I have to say that I have spoken to them a few times , mainly regarding the special threads that the t16 has, and they have not been able to help. In fact I did call them today and ask whether they could supply 1/2 pipe but they couldnt. That said, I have not asked them if they could make the pipes up so will call tomorrow. However, I am very interested to hear whether your Sykes tool goes to 1/2. Please let me know. By the way, dropped off the magdyno at PB today. Am i going to beat you back onto the road?

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by andrew honychurch

However, I am very interested to hear whether your Sykes tool goes to 1/2. Please let me know. By the way, dropped off the magdyno at PB today. Am i going to beat you back onto the road?

Hi Andrew,

Am fine thanks. There is another guy in town who may be able to help, but never open when I go there, give me a call sometime and I tell you where. I will check if my tooling does 1/2" tomorrow.

No doubt about it, yours will be on the road before mine

[Lynn Eades]

Can you put up a picture of the pipe ends? Are they not (Weatherhead?)fittings with an end sweated on to the pipe with silver solder (easyflo)
Much cheaper than a 250 pound flare tool.

[Lynn Eades]

These are Weatherhead fittings the dark nut is an original from a U.C. These were used in most carriers The Ferrule has a 1/2" bore to sweat onto a 1/2" o.d. pipe.

Ignore the crank handle cap.

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by Lynn Eades

These are Weatherhead fittings the dark nut is an original from a U.C. These were used in most carriers The Ferrule has a 1/2" bore to sweat onto a 1/2" o.d. pipe.

Ignore the crank handle cap.

hi Lynn,

Your photos look to show BSP pipe nipples. After talking to Andrew yesterday, he required flares on the pipes (opposite to cone nipples), which would sound right for a US made vehicle as that is the normal type of fitting used (JIC type with NF threads usually). As the Canadian carrier was based on a British design, did they not replicate parts and fittings? There are obviously detail differences between a US built T16 and the British designed Carrier and they cannot be compared on all details.

regards, Richard

[Lynn Eades]

I am not familiar with the t16. I have no idea what Ford U.S.A. decided to continue with or change. I was merely showing that these fittings are still available and were used in the earlier carriers.
On the 31st Aug. Andrew mentioned the "special threads the T16 has" I was wondering if maybe the manufacturers had stuck with BSF.

[andrew honychurch]

having waited for what seemed an age, I have now received the front seal and carbon rope seal for the rear main from the US and have put the engine back together and today, she found her way back home. Lets hope it runs ok. I decided its almost easier to mount it in the T16 to test run it rather than build a suitable cradle. Anyway, hope to run it in the next few days, but still got to do a load of bits and bobs first. Here are some photos .

[RichardT10829]

looking good !

[andrew honychurch]

thanks Richard, and so is your Universal, you are well under way too. Lets hope the T16 runs ok, this is rather a public way of failing. if indeed I have done something wrong! Will try to do a video of the first start!

[RichardT10829]

No such word as failure...just early attempts at success.... if mine blows up...so be it how come you did'nt paint the heads ? just wondering as i have painted mine (if it has any effect with heat etc i will strip the paint back off)

[andrew honychurch]

ok so she runs, and at the moment, she runs well. Have sorted out the timing, and subject to a full run all seems well. Hoping to take her for a run around the fields very soon.

[RichardT10829]

Did you get those pipes bent up that you mentioned earlier ? if you get stuck i can suggest a method involving silver sand

[andrew honychurch]

hi Rich. all ok I hope? I did not have to go to the trouble of bending the pipe as yet, but there may be a need soon. The pipes were serviceable but maybe i will need some help in the future. Fingers crossed for an oil free belly! They should be ok, now. I can always replace with rubber if needs be though thx

[RichardT10829]

no probs, i saw some stainless pipework bent up by packing it full of silver sand (rammed full) crimp the ends of the pipe then anneal the metal... then slowly start to bend it to shape.. the process is the same for copper too... was really interesting to watch !

glad its coming together for you