MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Armour Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-09-11, 20:29
kevinT kevinT is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Wolverhampton, England
Posts: 306
Default Argyle Roger

Although I cannot add anymore to these post one thing that does strike me as odd is the placement of the name itself.

Names are generally on the transmission, turret, front of driver gunner / driver housing or on or above the forward applique armour patch. It seems very far back to me.
Just an observation.

Cheers
Kevin
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 20-09-11, 13:48
Alex van de Wetering Alex van de Wetering is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hoofddorp, The Netherlands
Posts: 2,767
Default

The Airborne museum recently published an old picture of the Sherman in their news section, which shows the tank on display at the Doorwerth castle.


source: www.airbornemuseum.nl

Sadly the picture is slightly damaged on top of the Tank's name..... "ARG...GER". It does look like the tank hasn't been repainted in the picture yet....you still see remains of the US stencil "ANTI FREEZE....) close to the Census number.

I agree that it is not very likely that it was a Vc converted back to a V....Yes, you could replace the gun with a 75mm (one of us has even done this recently ), but what about the radio box at the rear of the turret and the square hatch? Fit a different turret would solve this, but than you still have the extra armor in front of the bow .30 position and the travel support for the gun.....and different hull interior layout. A number of Shermans on display in Belgium are actuallu Vc's made to look like American M4A4's, but in all cases evidence remains of their true identity....

Alex

hans_mulder_sherman.jpg
__________________
Chevrolet C8 cab 11 FFW
BSA Folding Bicycle
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 20-09-11, 15:53
tankbarrell tankbarrell is offline
Adrian Barrell
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Suffolk, UK
Posts: 860
Default

Nice picture. I agree, that tank has never been a VC. BTW the anti-freeze stencil is a British add on.
__________________
Adrian Barrell
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 21-09-11, 14:51
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,866
Default

All,

Thanks for your input. There is no doubt this Sherman V was never converted into a Firefly, and therefore could not have been "Argyle", which was a Sherman VC Firefly of the Lord Strathcona's Horse (Royal Canadians) it currently depicts.

I am hoping one day someone will recognise the meaning of "Argyll Roger" so we can trace it back to a unit which used this Sherman. Kevin's remark about the placement of the name may help in identifying certain regiments which adopted this practice?

Thanks,
Hanno
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:52.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016