Roof Hatch

[jason meade]

Hey Grant Ya i do have a few pilot friends 403 Hel Sqn just up the road from me, I dont dare to put a want add in as my wife will kill me if i bring home anymore "green crap"...already had tobuild a peice on the garage for the cmp, i would just end up finding something else I like.
Thanks for your help!
Jason

[Bob Carriere]

Jason....Grant....

do you remember the name of the chap that came to Ottawa..... he bought the UC from Coe Hill......now he had knowledge of a yard....deadend road somewhere in NS or NB....... they had tons of left over CMPs...... they migth still be there....... also the car dealer that was into CMP..... bought the water truck from CC....... having a CRS moment with names....

Reason for raising the issue, working from scratch to make a circular hatch can be a challenge...... have a model or a scrap one to work from is bliss.

I agree with Grant that finding a proper roof would greatly simplify the locating of the ring hatch...... fabricating the metal parts would be relatively easy...... fabricating the wooden spacer ring with the uneven curved edges to match the roof curve can be taxing.

If nothing turns ups on the coast we can try to measure what we have in our existing old roofs and share with Jason.

Bob

[jason meade]

Bob, I think I know the place on a dead end road as being in Moncton New Brunswick, a fellows father had a few that they convereted to use at a private air strip, they had got alot of canadas canair sabre 5 jets to convert them to drones. They had turned them into water and fuel tankers.
I was just down to look at one that was in the best condition before the snow came and there not much to talk about.
The other guy that you say bought the water tanker from a fellow in ontario was a Brad Mills also has a car dealership, he inturn sold it to a fellow in Moncton....Very nice truck I may add.
I guess I hope mabey someone will have one that I could borrow over the winter and reproduce, or find parts of one to get me started.
Jason

[Bob Carriere]

.... and plugging into the forum...something may come up. I picked up a very good rectangular hatch at Acton just a month or so ago.... price was cheaper than making one.

Stay in touch.

Bob

[Phil Waterman]

HI All

What year did they go from Square to Round roof hatches and do we have any idea what percentage of vehicles had a hatch at all?

I remember there is a very clear cut off date on the square hatch, but I also remember that there were a significant number of hatches cut in the roofs of CMPs in North Africa as an expedient to watch for aircraft.

As trucks often had parts shifted around finding a round hatch on an early Pattern 13 could just mean the cab roof had been swapped.

While I'm talking I'll tell you a story I heard from an Old Canadian Soldier years ago. Our MV Club had done a parade in Jaffrey New Hampshire a small town near my home, after the parade we had the vehicles on display around the town square and an older gentlemen came over to look at the HUP, from the look in his eye you tell the CMP meant something special to him. He told me he had served in the Canadian Army during the 2nd WW. We talked about the truck and its history, and he climbed in to look around some more he stood up through the co-drivers hatch and we continued talking. He said something like "do you know why some of them have square hatches and some round" I didn't know so he went on "round people into square corners don't go" then he explained that it was because with the early square hatch guys would get thrown around on rough ground and they were ending up with bruised and broken ribs. Several years later at the 84 CMP Seminar I has the design panel if there was a particular reason for the change from square to round. None of the panel could remember why the change, then related the story I'd been told. There response was it was a very plausible reason.

Cheers Phil