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Hi Richard
Don't be mislead by the winch crossmember mounting plates........all CMPs have them. The winch mounting crossmember was a factory stock issue rivetted in place when the frame was done. Those destined to have a winch were then ready for installation. If you rtruck was an original tipper..... the hydraulic pump was probably driven by the PTO at the back of the transfer case. The same location that would have powered the winch .........tippers would not have winch and lifting device for the dump box.... That truck looks very straight and worth every effort to restore it to its former glory. Don't forget the pictures as most of us are illeterate and love/need to see nice pictures. Bob C
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Film maker 42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains 42 FGT No9 (Aust) 42 F15 Keith Webb Macleod, Victoria Australia Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern |
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..... to the Ford X-Purt ...........
My experience is limited due to my sheltered life as a devout Chebby Lover !!!!!! ....on the ID plate....could the 41 be actually a 44...? Will need to crawl under the 42 F15a to see the difference.... once the ground is dry !!!!! Very early pilots cab 13.....and HUP were around late 41(Dec) or January 42..... but I stand to be corrected again.... Bob
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As far as I know, all CMP dump bodies were hydraulically powered from the PTO (the transfer case PTO, not the transmission). This means that it is unlikely that there were any dump trucks equipped with a winch. (for the same reason - transfer case PTO already used for the 2nd rear axle - I haven't seen any listings for C60-X with a winch) This makes sense on another level - the electrical system on all trucks of the era, not just CMPs, didn't have the capacity of modern trucks to support loads like winches or snow plows and electric motors also were larger, heavier and I think less efficient due to advances in magnet technology. I think they would have preferred hydraulic over electric for applications that might get wet.
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Guys,
Thanks for all of the commentary. The pictures were taken when it was parked outside last fall, it is now inside - safe and dry. For those of you that prefer not to read, I will try and video a quick walk around, crawl underneath and include shots of the cab with a close up of the ID plate. I will then post this video to YouTube with the title "F-60S Tipper". We will restore the Tipper to its original specs. You have convinced me that I need to chase down a FAT to haul the UC on a trailer or to winch it out of the mud. I will post the link as soon as the video is up. Regards, Richard
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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I am updating an old thread but the good news is that I am making rapid progress on the F60-S tipper. A local family has purchased this vehicle and they would like to use it on their large, rural property. Currently, it is not functional with the large wood box on the rear so I have decided to convert it into a LSVW. Since this CMP looks like it was originally fabricated for civilian purposes, I have elected to keep it civilian but add some military accessories. Let's called it a Hybrid which is much better than a gate guard or a parked truck in the back 40 that is slowly rotting away. The plan is to put the 2B1 metal box on the rear and pull the hydraulic lift back on the frame. In the space between the cab and the lift, I will add a spare tire carrier and a tool locker. Inside the cab, I need to add a passenger seat and I am going to add a roof hatch. If the box clears the rear of the frame, I will add a trailer hitch and the tow rings for the front bumper. The revised F-60S will be as authentic as possible in a "could have been" configuration. At the very least, it will be in operation and enjoyed as a working piece of history. As always, comments and opinions are welcome!
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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