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Old 10-02-12, 23:28
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The Cdn government retains all rights, ownership and responsibility until the disposed object is destroyed in accordance with related agreements and policies. You may not like what is happening but that is the way it is.....
You're such a spoil sport!

Here was I thinking we had a foolproof plan, even if we only saved a few, the MRV gate guard in Wagga is starting to look more attractive.
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Old 11-02-12, 06:08
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If the purchase of surplus to needs military equipment and vehicles around the world dry up wouldn't that make our restored vehicles more rare and valuable.

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Old 11-02-12, 14:11
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Yes it would make them more valuable, however, there has to be entry level stuff for the 16 year old kid in order to make him a life long military vehicle collector (addict). Most young people can't afford to toss $10K to 50K onto something that will not attract the fairer sex.

As well, most guys want something that either has to do with their service career or maybe something their Dad drove in the war. Just as model Ts and 57 chevys have fallen out of favor to the muscle cars of the 60s and early 70s, many of the military vehicles will follow the same pattern. The one exception of course is the Jeep, which remains timeless.
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Old 12-02-12, 00:09
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Reread my post carefully: It says something about attracting the fairer sex. Jeep-yes, Iltis-no. The Iltis is just too ugly. Might as well be trying to pick up chicks with a cab 11.
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Old 12-02-12, 05:58
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Reread my post carefully: It says something about attracting the fairer sex. Jeep-yes, Iltis-no. The Iltis is just too ugly. Might as well be trying to pick up chicks with a cab 11.
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Old 12-02-12, 06:07
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What is wrong with a cab 11......?


...or is it what is right with a cab 11....???? all I can think of is that it was an improvement on some of the open cabs the Brits had.....

....its cozy and very intimate......

I had an American tell me when I showed him a picture of a cab 11...... "it is so butt ugly it's almost come around to being cute...!!!!

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Old 12-02-12, 15:31
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Rob Love is absolutely correct.

Point- three summers ago, parked iltis in front of bar downtown Montreal while friend and i sat at outdoor tables a few yards away.

for about 45 minutes, every single male (99.99%) gawked at jeep, zero females looked or even noticed, unless it was to yank male partner away or notice his head was turned looking at something....100% males.. ZERO females.

Seems the only kind of MVs one will get in the future will come from ex-soviet manufacture..and even then cost will be a huge impediment..(along with lots of paperwork)

The hobby may die out, and with so many non-collectors using the iltis as an expendable dune buggy, there may a number of those wrecked in the near future, and if not wrecked, in need of major repair, with a very limited parts supply of certain Iltis specific parts. Seems to me a decreasing number of young people are interested in messing around with greasy rusty auto repair...and there are no computers to re-configure on these old things...
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Old 13-02-12, 10:29
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The hobby may die out, and with so many non-collectors using the iltis as an expendable dune buggy, there may a number of those wrecked in the near future, and if not wrecked, in need of major repair, with a very limited parts supply of certain Iltis specific parts. Seems to me a decreasing number of young people are interested in messing around with greasy rusty auto repair...and there are no computers to re-configure on these old things...
Isn't that why ex-military vehicles are bought by the public? All I see are jeeps and trucks bought for fun off-roading, building site & farm yard hack, snow plow, etc? Try to find a barn find MB or GPW which at one time has not been converted into a snow plow, overpainted in a bright colour, extra lights and wide tyres added, etc.

It is only after a certain time elapses and a certain type of vehicle disappears from the street, when people start collecting and restoring them. This probably concurs with the phase in their life when they have an expendable income and spare time on their hands.

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Old 12-02-12, 18:52
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.... It looks like we have a healthy interest locally in Ottawa. I think last year we had a tremendous turn out of various MIL collectors. Lots of Cold War stuff, which is the easiest to get running. That is a good place to start. I think we have a good core group that encourages participation in the hobby.

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well OK with the group at the S&P museum and a handful of others like a few iltis jeep owners..but realistically what`s the average age of owners at that event? 45-50?

not many 18-20yr olds..... as like long (!) ago when we were that age and mucking about with old cars. Yes there are some young owners of these jeeps, but realistically they picked them up for 2-5000$ as bushwackers, not because there was an interest in the heritage or restoration..and I fear those particular jeeps ( of an already small nuber avaiilable) will be fairly beaten up in a mere couple of years.

the fact is there are more people exiting the hobby than entering, and its getting harder to enter ( finding restorable MVs), and more expensive..

even the Iltis wasn`t originally supposed to be released to the pubic, and we only have them kind of by accident.

I enjoy it sure, but as an example I have a 20yr son who doesnt even have a licence and is not even interested in learning to drive
(is he my son???)
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Old 12-02-12, 16:26
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Reread my post carefully: It says something about attracting the fairer sex. Jeep-yes, Iltis-no. The Iltis is just too ugly. Might as well be trying to pick up chicks with a cab 11.
Chicks in Cab 11...Bruce P of this forum, as a young subaltern, took a date to Casa Loma for a Regimental function in one. Worked for him!
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Old 12-02-12, 16:42
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Chicks in Cab 11...Bruce P of this forum, as a young subaltern, took a date to Casa Loma for a Regimental function in one. Worked for him!
Was she riding up front or in the back?
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Old 12-02-12, 18:24
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Was she riding up front or in the back?
Not often will a response on an internet forum make me laugh to the point of tears in my eyes, but this was one of them.

Edited to add: on writing the response, I read it again and it made me laugh again. I am averting my eyes this time and watching the keyboard.
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