New Carrier Owner

[Lynn Eades]

Hi Manfred, Welcome to the forum, Isabell III looks like a fine carrier. It must be great to have her in the gararge.
Richard, My AOP is a MkIII, It has the two "Square holes" Do you have photos of a different arrangement?
I'd say Isabell has to be a MkII*.

[eddy8men]

hi manfred
welcome to the carrier club, that's a nice machine you've got there. i hope you can come to beltring with her this year as we are planning on it being a carrier fest so one more would always be welcome

all the best

rick

[RichardT10829]

I thought Mk2 from the round bar.... but you never can tell. the AOP carrier Lynn am i right in thinking they never progressed from the Mk1 style lower hull ? photo's of different arrangement ? are you referring to the lights? mine has both lamps fitted to the fenders / track guards rather than one lamp fitted to the gunners armour

[Michael R.]

Welcome Manfred !

Your Carrier is a U.C. No. 2 Mk. II*, built by Ford, in Windsor, Ontario, Canada. Without a doubt it was manufactured in contract number CD 2609, March or April, 1944. The upper armour is CB 24552, engine number is TL 27149-F . As Nigel mentions, a former mortar carrier stowage model.

If you remove the post war fuel container bracket from the left rear, you may find the lower hull number on the angle bracket that attaches the rear upper vertical armour plate to the lower hull. See red arrow in attached image.

[Lynn Eades]

What do you mean "they never progressed" Do you mean the Brits?
What you maybe dont follow is that the different types evolved at different times. As with the Brens, there was a MkI and then a MkII. This was before the MkI U.C.
The Armoured O.P. evolved rather quickly. The Mk I, followed by MkII (see Nigel Wards) and by 1942 The AOP MkII was obsolete. A directive was issued to withdraw them from service around april that year)
I suspect the change from MkI to MkII in Mortar carriers was also at a different time to the other U.C's.
My Armoured O.P MkIIIW was built in late 1941 at Dagenham, and so we are talking about Mk III AOP's, almost before any MkII U.C's were built.

Yes the Armoured O.P MkIIIw is a similar layout to a MkI U.C. in that the battery is located in the left side rear and the air exit holes in the rear plate of the lower hull are rectangular.

Do you have pictures of a differnet hole arrangement?

[RichardT10829]

No unfortunately not... i can photo my lower hull with the square vent holes but have not got any images of Mk2's etc etc.

[Manfred Müllner]

Hi all!

Thank you for the warm Welcome.
I think it is time for a few pictures.

Michael, I think you know the carrier actually better than I.
The upper hull number is CB24552, the lower hull number in the rear is 24547.
A lot of parts have the sign FMCo 44.
Until now I had no time to find the engine number, as I said it was -8° C.

In the side of the carrier is CT 14164 located.
Is that right, which range in numbers can apply to the vehicle?
What role may have the carrier had?

The big box on the rear is it installed right?
What are the brackets?
At the feet of the Gunner is a holder made of wood?
Is the back rest by the Gunners seat original, I do not think so?
How would that look like faucets and speedometer?

The carrier has a lever with a linkage for the starter.
A second lever with linkage could be for the fuel valve.
I have to try to get copies of the manuals for the UC2 MkII *.