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Old 16-04-12, 03:29
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Yep Terry I am Here,...just lurking around. I think I will pull up beside Robin and see who like to hear there own voice...lol
Terry if your talking about the m-38a1 with the 106RR on it, its now gone into storage,We are still renovating the the museum with new displays yet to be put togeather.
I finally did get that M-109A4, as you can see in the photo.

As for me opening my mouth on here about vech collections its not worth it, I have 70 plus in running condition with a 30,000.00 budget per year, so very little can be done, and volunteers really are just a joke, dont get me wrong there are alot of great guys out there willing to help out, but even more who just want a spare part for there own collection.

As you can see i have almost blown my budget for this year, The old days of getting Maintance to do the work are long over, If you want to play you got to pay.
However some will say why bother having them if ya cant look after them, will my answer is simple,If i dont get it, You all will never see it.
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Old 16-04-12, 06:30
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G'day all, I put a bit of my time here at the Puckapunyal Tank Museum and for us a restoration of even a cosmetic standard takes a few years. They do get a lot of people who criticise the state or layout of some vehicles or displays, however maintaining a Museum is not high on Defences budget. At the end of the day we solider on and continue to maintain items, currently our Light Horse Rail Carriage is getting all of the attention.

I would like to visit the CWM one day. Any chance of some piccys for us who have never been???

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Old 16-04-12, 07:05
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Hi Guys

Very interesting thread and some great comments. I thought that I would add my bit. I heard on the radio this morning after visiting my mate Salesman Bob, that the Federal Government have just announced they are giving $21 Million Dollars to the Canberra War Museum to upgrade their WW1 display. Sorry guys nothing for vehicles.

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Old 16-04-12, 11:40
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Chris, I certainly agree with your point that even when in a museum you have to be cautious of the accuracy of the material. I know that there is the common perception that what is presented in a museum is 100% accurate but unfortunately this is not the case as errors do crop up. The challenge is getting these errrors corrected.

With respect to your comment about the C15AA in the CWM collection, I agree that there are probably better C15TA restorations in public hands, but the C15AA on display is the only one of its kind and came from the John Marchant collection in England.
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Chris,

from the vantage point of my sandbag I think peoples comments have been very reasonable and that you should not take any offence ( I didnt think you had), this is a forum and we are kicking a subject around out in the open for all of us to comment on just the way the forum was intended to be used.

Kind of like "due process"

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Old 16-04-12, 16:14
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Chris, I certainly agree with your point that even when in a museum you have to be cautious of the accuracy of the material. I know that there is the common perception that what is presented in a museum is 100% accurate but unfortunately this is not the case as errors do crop up. The challenge is getting these errrors corrected.
Ed, you have summed up exactly my point, maybe a little more eloquently than myself.

Robin, no offense taken, of course, I appreciate a good debate.
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Old 16-04-12, 16:54
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Hi 'Little Jo'

Yes, the $21M for the WW1 displays will go a long way. The project has been underway for two years, with considerable planning already achieved. I think the $$ are to cover not only the displays, but some of the commemorations as well: the period 2014 to 2018 is going to be a busy one for the Australain War Memorial (so what's new? The soon to retire Director always had something happening) as the various centennials roll around.

The AWM has a reasonable WW1 vehicle collection, both horse drawn and mechanized, that has already seen many $$ spent on it.

As for the CWM, I seem to remember Jim W telling me that the lower floor of the new building was really a 'display-storage' area, with little work or presentation of the exhibits. So I gather they are presented 'warts and all', so to speak.

One of the most memorable exhibits I remember was a StugIII, blown to hell and unrestored (but conserved, no doubt). Excellent exhibit!

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Old 16-04-12, 18:29
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As for the CWM, I seem to remember Jim W telling me that the lower floor of the new building was really a 'display-storage' area, with little work or presentation of the exhibits. So I gather they are presented 'warts and all', so to speak.
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Mike, that pretty much sums up what I am talking about....
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Old 17-04-12, 03:13
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Hi 'Little Jo'

Yes, the $21M for the WW1 displays will go a long way. The project has been underway for two years, with considerable planning already achieved. I think the $$ are to cover not only the displays, but some of the commemorations as well: the period 2014 to 2018 is going to be a busy one for the Australain War Memorial (so what's new? The soon to retire Director always had something happening) as the various centennials roll around.

The AWM has a reasonable WW1 vehicle collection, both horse drawn and mechanized, that has already seen many $$ spent on it.

As for the CWM, I seem to remember Jim W telling me that the lower floor of the new building was really a 'display-storage' area, with little work or presentation of the exhibits. So I gather they are presented 'warts and all', so to speak.

One of the most memorable exhibits I remember was a StugIII, blown to hell and unrestored (but conserved, no doubt). Excellent exhibit!

Mike C
Hi Mike

You are right. It has been years since I last visited the CWA, the last time was for the Internment of the Unknown Soldier. I must make an effort to re visit again. The CWA has always been a fabulous place to visit and well worth the long drive from Adelaide. I must confess I made a mistake when I quoted the figure of $21 Million it was actually $27 Million, good injection of funds.

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