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Old 17-04-12, 08:47
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Hi,
Pulled out my doors today to look at them and had a few nagging questions:

What do the snaps for the canvas windows look like? I have only bare holes in the upper door skins, and the holes are all different sizes. Did a search on the forum, but detailed photos of cab 11/12 doors are hard to come by.

Are these inner door handles original, or....?

I have to order outer door handles also. From what I can gather, these are 1939-40 Ford?

Please forgive my newbie questions, and as always thanks for all your help!
Thanks, David
Here is a few photos I have
Door handles look original
On my doors all snaps appear to be the same size except there are only 3 across the top that I can see
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Old 17-04-12, 17:46
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Default I have some new snaps I'll take pictures

Hi David

I have some of the snaps (sorry just enough for my truck) but will take pictures of them so you know what to look for. I have seen them on one of the old car sites so they are being reproduced.

As to the door handles, as you can see in the picture my Pat 12 C60L has the same type of handles with the short lobe pointing forward waiting to get caught on brush.



I replaced them with a very similar design that are 40s Dodge which are the curved design which are less likely to get caught on stuff. The correct ones are available as bright chrome I'll try and find the source.

I'll take some photos. Oh yes the picture is of my truck as found not as it is today.

Cheers Phil
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Old 17-04-12, 22:35
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Default Here are some photos of the door canvas snaps

Hi David

Here are some photo of the little snaps first ones are the snaps before installation, the next are what they look like as installed. As you will see they are designed to go into the hole then are expanded to hold.

I'll look and see if I can find the source that got them from.
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Old 17-04-12, 22:40
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Default Pat 12 Door Handles

Hi David

Here are some photos of the door handles on my Pat 12 C60l. The square shaft and the bezel seem to be fairly common what seems to be the issue is the length of the shaft, the Dodge ones I used as an expedient were about an inch to long, cut off and drilled and tapped for the inside handle.

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Old 18-04-12, 01:57
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Default door hardware....

Thanks Andrew and Phil for all the photos and great information!

Phil, are your old outer handles available? If so, please let me know.

I did find some outer door handles at Mac's antique auto parts, but they don't look quite the same as the ones posted. Found inner handles also, but were also chromed, and not brass over steel.

Is this bare brass over steel thing just for military vehicles of the time? I've never seen it on anything else.

Ordered some of the canvas snaps from Ron Fitzpatrick Jeep Parts. My brother, the jeep enthusiast, said to order a few more than I need as they can get distorted when you try and install them.

Decided to re-use my original inner door handles. One was broken and missing part of it's outer brass sheeting. Found a brass key tag, then formed and brazed it around the missing part. With a little effort it turned out OK.

Thanks again!
David
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Old 18-04-12, 01:59
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Thanks, Grant for the information!

Was apparently typing a reply while you were posting your's.....

Thanks again,
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Old 23-04-12, 00:53
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Default doors refinished...

Hi,
Got both my doors all welded up and fairly straight this weekend. There were lots of stress cracks, structural damage and some very deep dents to manage. The deep dents in both doors were apparently caused by the lack of door check straps fitted, which caused these suicide doors to slam into the rear body.....and must have happened a lot on this truck! If you saw the condition of the door latches, you would know why.

Received my door snaps for the canvas window openings on Saturday. They installed OK using light pressure with a large "C" clamp. I used brass tarp eylettes in the two upper holes in the doors. Didn't know what exactly went in these holes, but one of Andrew's photos show a brass fitting in one of them. The tarp eyelettes were an exact pressed fit, and I had them already, so I went with them for the time being.

The 1934 Ford door handles will go away once I order a correct reproduction pair, but they do look kind of stylish, don't they?

Also sorted out my windshield wiper hardware and installed the grab handle on the passenger side floor.

Thanks, David
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Old 18-04-12, 01:29
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Default Door snaps - source

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I'll look and see if I can find the source that got them from.
I'm not sure of Phil's source but Bob Carriere bought some from Mac's, part number A81002, they also sell an installation tool.
See:
http://macsautoparts.com/ford-side-c...R3CHL1075951E/ and http://macsautoparts.com/side-curtai...R3CHL1075952E/
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