C8 progress in Texas

[Phil Waterman]

Hi David

The vertical or top surface holes hold a tapered molded units to hold the door window frames. This also is a standard old Ford part used for the same purpose holding door side curtains in open cars that didn't have roll up windows. Think I have seen it in Macs. I'll take a couple of pictures of the ones on my truck.

Wonder work you are doing, the truck is going to be a true prize when it is done, heck its a prize now.

Cheers Phil

[Bob Carriere]

HI David

The door holes... the ones on top, are as Phil describes, meant to hold the round rod steel support for the canvas side covers. They are available from Mac Auto...... who also has the proper door handles.

The early cab 11 doors did not have door straps to keep them from hitting the cargo box. In fact in some early WW 2 Canadian manoeuver pictures all the trucks seem to have the doors open all the way back..... as if they hade been tied in the extreme back position to make getting in and out easier.

Some cab 11 were retro fitted with the strap.... which in turn created additional strees points in the sheet metal.....most cab 12 had the straps built in at the factory.

Did you have trouble installing the 3 "hat" shaped fittings in the door..... did you have the proper tool that Mac sells.......????

Here is the big question for me...... I have original side curtains that I procured from Dirk.
BUT I have never seen what the steel rods, that are inserted in the canvas, looks like.
Anyone out there that has pictures and measurements.... should not be too hard to repro.[COLOR="Green"][/COLOR]

Sure enjoy reading about your progress ......

Bob C

[Ganmain Tony]

Ohhh goody. My favourite thread is back..

Again, very resourceful choices when there is nothing else available. Well done

Phil and Bob - have you got the part numbers for the door handles and those rods for the door canvas?

I am itching to get both these items.

By the way I didnt realise you Chev blokes spoke Ford???

[Phil Waterman]

Hi

Yes most Chevy speakers can speak Ford, but need to use many hand gestures and speak loudly and slowly to be understood by those who speak Ford.

I'll take some photos of the window post units from the doors this afternoon, I got a list of photos I need to take to answer various CMP questions for people.

The use of Ford parts on Chevy CMPs and visa verse all seems to stem back to the thinking that was described by Sid Swallow about the birth of the CMP concept at Ford and GM. They needed parts fast and they engineers grab parts that they had that worked which would not require time to develop new tooling. It would be fun to have a time machine and go back and watch this relatively small group of people develop the first CMPs get them into production and then evolve them based on the feedback they got.

Cheers Phil

[Grant Bowker]

from Mac's web site
http://macsautoparts.com/ford-side-c...0R3CHL1075964/
I'll let someone who's actually used the handles (or at least has the originals) comment on that part.

[Ganmain Tony]

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

Hi

The use of Ford parts on Chevy CMPs and visa verse all seems to stem back to the thinking that was described by Sid Swallow about the birth of the CMP concept at Ford and GM. They needed parts fast and they engineers grab parts that they had that worked which would not require time to develop new tooling. It would be fun to have a time machine and go back and watch this relatively small group of people develop the first CMPs get them into production and then evolve them based on the feedback they got.

Cheers Phil

I couldnt agree more Phil, would love to have been a fly on the wall during those meetings and discussions. Ill bet they took place over dusty parts bins with old Henry insisting they use the oldest stuff first. Sid Swallow would have had some sleepless nights as well.

I suppose... applying logic....those curtain rods would have come off something from the 20's or 30's..

[David DeWeese]

Thanks everyone for the replies and the helpful information!

I guess that explains the unknown holes on the ends of each door a few inches below where those rod fitting would be. It also appears that the previous owner had the side curtains installed while all that damage was occuring to the doors. All the door skins around the holes where those missing fitting would be installed were badly mangled.

The photo from Mac's, (thanks Grant), look like those fitttings have a square socket on the inside. Did the side curtain rods have a square shank with round rod or...?

Thanks again,
David

[Mike K]

Something I've noticed

The Chevy cab 11/12 doors have a inner panel , but the fraud version didn't , the outer panel is exposed .

Mike