C8 progress in Texas

[Bob Carriere]

I was searching in the barn this afternoon for the side curtains but could not find them...... bingo in a special plastic container in a basement room.
Will have pictures tomorrow.

Strangely one plastic window is clear and useable... the other has frosted over and the frosting is coming off as plastic flakes....completely opaque and both were stored wrapped in newspaper from Holland in the same air tight container. Pictures will show the details.

I may have to carefully remove the deteriorated plastic and resew a new section of modern vinyl using a hand awl and using the same needle holes

Now for David...... the rods are just straight flat pieces inserted in the pocket/sleeve provided...... but..... in your pictures you seem to have a 3/8 rod exposed on the top section that would be close to the roof...... am I mistaken....?

Can you measure the off set of the front leg.... seems to go from flat stock about 3/4 inch wide ( maybe 7/8 and what thickness ) welded to a round bar then welded or forged into a square section...... am I correct..... ?

On the rear rod what are the dimension/length of the rod when it leaves the flat stock to the square section.....

A very primitive design..... that could not have been very effective in pouring rain or blowing Canadian Winter....... it is no wonder that all pictures of trucks on manoeuvres or in action rarely shows the side curtain windows in place......

Pictures tomorrow.

Thanks for the priceless pictures David.

Bob

[Bob Carriere]

It seems to be the rear rod that is offset with snaps and canvas that wraps around the vertical pillar of the roof with snaps attaching to the wooden frame work.... almost acting as a canvas hinge.

The front rod is angled but other wise has no offset.....

I will get it right eventually.

Bob

[Phil Waterman]

Hi David

Bob is correct your photos add to the knowledge base of the early side curtains. There are some photos of trucks with them in use but most don't.


The picture above is from a batch of snaps taken in British Columbia from the pictures is must have been cold because most of them show the side curtains installed on all the trucks. http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/C...20Columbia.htm

Driving these trucks with the side curtains in is claustrophobic and greatly decrease the visibility.

Now the next question who is going to be first to reproduce the side curtains and take their Pat 11 or 12 out for a spin at -30C?

Cheers Phil

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Just to remind you, here's a link to an older thread on the subject: Canvas Side Curtain Frame.

HTH,
Hanno

[david moore]

Bob - you are right - no offset at the front , just a change in angle. There is an offset at the rear. Not sure why it has to be that way but it seems to work. I'll get dimensions of the flat bar tomorrow but yes, welded to the "spike" which is forged to square (blacksmith-like) not another weld job.

The top bar is round and here is where my example seems very crude; the top bar has holes near the ends matching holes in the vertical struts - they are bolted together with small brass nuts and bolts. Also the top bar has no open slot for it in the canvas - just pushed through ragged holes! Not sure if this is not just a civvy lash up done by post war owner? That round rod system shown in the earlier thread looks much more professional. However, if other people have frames that look like mine, must be a factory job?

My screen has poppers along the bottom and up the back on a canvas "hinge". I'll need to check the top but I dont think so as the door couldnt open then. Was there perhaps a top shield strip like the one that goes down the windshield side? I think I recall seeing the remains of such a piece when I got my truck. There are poppers along the top wood I think - again need to check tomorrow- and that extra piece would then make sense.

[david moore]

Guys
Just going back to my truck as-received with the original screen in place. Clearly not attached at the top but no extra weather shield either.

[david moore]

I now see why they have the offset in the rear frame rod - it is so that the rear canvas "hinge" can be attached to the woodwork inside the plane of the door skin so to speak whereas the front frame is actually at the location of the door outer skin. Thus the screen has to "come in at the back a bit" to put it in technical terms! Hope you can see what I mean!

This whole academic discussion must be equivalent to rivet counting amongst modelers! And this is a Chevy thread! But presumably Ford and Chev Cab 11/12's all had the same screen system?......Uh -oh!...that may start another whole new discussion!