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Old 29-04-12, 05:58
Bob Carriere Bob Carriere is offline
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Default Pouring over your pictures again...

It seems to be the rear rod that is offset with snaps and canvas that wraps around the vertical pillar of the roof with snaps attaching to the wooden frame work.... almost acting as a canvas hinge.

The front rod is angled but other wise has no offset.....

I will get it right eventually.

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Old 30-04-12, 01:34
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Default Thanks for the photos- of the side curtain

Hi David

Bob is correct your photos add to the knowledge base of the early side curtains. There are some photos of trucks with them in use but most don't.


The picture above is from a batch of snaps taken in British Columbia from the pictures is must have been cold because most of them show the side curtains installed on all the trucks. http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/C...20Columbia.htm

Driving these trucks with the side curtains in is claustrophobic and greatly decrease the visibility.

Now the next question who is going to be first to reproduce the side curtains and take their Pat 11 or 12 out for a spin at -30C?

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Old 30-04-12, 01:52
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Just to remind you, here's a link to an older thread on the subject: Canvas Side Curtain Frame.

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Old 30-04-12, 04:11
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Default Side Screen frames

Bob - you are right - no offset at the front , just a change in angle. There is an offset at the rear. Not sure why it has to be that way but it seems to work. I'll get dimensions of the flat bar tomorrow but yes, welded to the "spike" which is forged to square (blacksmith-like) not another weld job.

The top bar is round and here is where my example seems very crude; the top bar has holes near the ends matching holes in the vertical struts - they are bolted together with small brass nuts and bolts. Also the top bar has no open slot for it in the canvas - just pushed through ragged holes! Not sure if this is not just a civvy lash up done by post war owner? That round rod system shown in the earlier thread looks much more professional. However, if other people have frames that look like mine, must be a factory job?

My screen has poppers along the bottom and up the back on a canvas "hinge". I'll need to check the top but I dont think so as the door couldnt open then. Was there perhaps a top shield strip like the one that goes down the windshield side? I think I recall seeing the remains of such a piece when I got my truck. There are poppers along the top wood I think - again need to check tomorrow- and that extra piece would then make sense.
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Old 30-04-12, 04:18
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Default Screen frame again

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Just going back to my truck as-received with the original screen in place. Clearly not attached at the top but no extra weather shield either.
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Old 30-04-12, 04:28
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Default Screen again...again!

I now see why they have the offset in the rear frame rod - it is so that the rear canvas "hinge" can be attached to the woodwork inside the plane of the door skin so to speak whereas the front frame is actually at the location of the door outer skin. Thus the screen has to "come in at the back a bit" to put it in technical terms! Hope you can see what I mean!

This whole academic discussion must be equivalent to rivet counting amongst modelers! And this is a Chevy thread! But presumably Ford and Chev Cab 11/12's all had the same screen system?......Uh -oh!...that may start another whole new discussion!
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Old 30-04-12, 10:25
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Default Thanks Hanno

Linking that thread has shed new light on the subject

Bob, Phil and David your thoughts???

For what its worth I think the rods set up that Maurice took some snaps of in that thread that Hanno has shown appears to be original set up.

When I pulled apart the old set up on my truck it only had press studs running down the B-pillar timber... not across the top.
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