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Old 01-06-12, 05:16
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If you want to impress the rivet counters, you've just been told it probably isn't going to get you any favourable noises. BUT ... if you need a representative BREN for your particular purposes, 250 pounds might be the best buy you'll make. It all depends on what you want.

For example, I hunt with a very utilitarian .300 Winchester Magnum rifle that has a plastic stock. It shoots very very well, but would be laughed off the firing point at a target rifle match. Horses for courses.
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Old 01-06-12, 09:20
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Hi Richie, as has already been said this is a late Canadian manyfacture MK1. its nice to see its a bit worn, there as so many 1950s refurbed guns out . if you look at those during the war they were getting a bit on the worn side. It correct for its MK. The price is very good , if you dont want it buy it and i will have it off you !!!!!! its about £100 cheeper than they are oing for at the moment.
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Old 01-06-12, 09:23
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ok cheers Shaun....might try and work a deal with him. Either way as long as its what it is purported to be, even if its no good for me I will get it for you.
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Old 01-06-12, 09:46
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Could some of the clever buggers explain it in more detail?
Richard it would be fine for what you want.
Here is my limited knowledge on it. I stand to be corrected if I am wrong.
The Barrel is from a MkI bren (Stainless flash hider)
The bipod is MkII (it is non adjustable)
A MkI has the fancy drum back sight.

Any price you get is only going to be relevant in the country its in, because the laws in every country are different. (the only consistency is that the U.N is doing its best to take any thing that pings a rubber band or a piece of potato off us.
Over here a licenced person can own a "live" one ( but we cannot ever fire them) A deactivated one is treated exactly the same as a live one, under the law.
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Old 01-06-12, 10:05
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nice gun and a nice price. i wouldn't worry about miss matched parts, it went thru ww2 so it's bound to have been repaired and upgraded.

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Old 01-06-12, 20:59
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right picked it up an hour ago... complete with de act certificate from Birmingham proof house.... the chap is selling his entire collection including a pristine Enfield No.4 which he wants £380 for, he is going to email me his list of kit and prices in due course.

I was a bit bummed that the barrel on the bren was not removable but the chap was saying that this practice is no longer allowed under current de ac rules and normally the older de ac's will still have the removable barrels....this one was done in 2002.... i am none the wiser he could have been spinning me a yarn for all i know. I did notice that the cocking mech needs to be forward assisted ? is this due to an empty mag or is it a typical bren thing ?
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Old 01-06-12, 21:46
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Hi Richard,

Fixed barrel is indeed the current law in the UK. The spare barrel is not allowed either. The old spec de-acts are very desirable because of the removable barrels en that is expressed in the prices of these.
Cocking handle is not spring assisted to its forward position so, yes, you return it manually after cocking the gun.

The gun you just picked up is a nice example and will look very good in your Carrier. How are you getting along with the Carrier BTW? It's been a while since your last thread update.

Cheers,
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Old 02-06-12, 00:13
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Could some of the clever buggers explain it in more detail?
Richard it would be fine for what you want.
Here is my limited knowledge on it. I stand to be corrected if I am wrong.
The Barrel is from a MkI bren (Stainless flash hider)
The bipod is MkII (it is non adjustable)
A MkI has the fancy drum back sight.
The butt is off a mk2, and the carry handle is not the correct pattern. Hard to pick out other problems as the photos don't show the detail very well.

There was a CFTO in the 50s detailing the changes required to install a mk2 butt when the mk1 butts were no longer available. There was a slight difference in shape of the lower receiver extension nut.
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Old 02-06-12, 01:13
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Richard,

I have 50 empty bren mags here, I can let you have one when I see you at Beltring as I fear you may be an emotional wreck after my little 'wind up' on the data plate, I think you started to actually think I have your plate and the location of your armour just waiting to be made into bake bean tins.

sorry.......................but it still could be out there somewhere, fingers crosed.

Kev .
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Old 02-06-12, 10:19
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Indeed my spare barrel is an ally dummy. I had an original live barrel with lovely markings, but sold it to a gun collector for fear of getting my collar felt

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