Iltis and M101. Ready for Coe Hill

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Stuart Fedak

Clive,
I neglected to compliment you on the M101 CDN2 paint job.
Cheers!
Stuart

Compliments to Don Dingwall who did the work.

C

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Stuart Fedak

Well, if Don wants some more practice, I have two M101 CDN2 that need painting........... I want to first replace the leaf springs, add new shocks and touch up some bumps and such.......... I have some replacement rear reflectors from the UK...........

The green looks great......... was that applied by spray gun?

Cheers!
Stuart

I have passed the message to Don.
Do you have any spare reflectors, including the side ones?
Both the green and the black were sprayed. In fact, Don turned the trailer upside down, fixed the springs, wire-brushed the rust away and painted the underside. Then he flipped it upright, removed the rust and painted.

[rob love]

Rust on a M101Cdn2? They were zeibarted and undercoated. How could they rust?

The problem I have with mine here is that the zeibart from the upper square tubing keeps leaking and covering the corners of my trailer.

Aside from the cheap nylon bushings, what goes wrong with the springs? Finally, after 50 years of using truck springs on trailers, they got it right by using trailer springs. And 3000 pound capacity at that.

[servicepub (RIP)]

The springs were fine. It was the shackle binding them together that was falling apart.

[Robin Craig]

Rob,

we have the same problem with one of those, I was thinking of cleaning the opeing with acetone and installing a nylon plug secured with "right stuff" and then cleaning the trailer with gentle soapy warm water pressure cleaner.

Think it has merit?

R

[rob love]

I'm not sure it would cure the problem. The Zeibart is designed to creep. They must have really filled those tubes for it to still be spewing like this after 20 years. I am not sure if the square channelling is welded all the way around at the corners, and if it is, whether the weld is leak proof. The square channel may have been welded in place and the inside edges are not closed off, which means the stuff will continue to leak.

All in all though they are the toughest of all the 1/4 ton trailers. I have both a M100 and a M101Cdn2, and while the temptation is there to thin the herd of one or the other, each has it's merits.

[Ed Storey]

Judging by the photographs that I have of this trailer type, the M101CDN2 was originally delivered in the NATO three-colour camouflage as seen in this image taken at CFB Kingston in 1994.



I am not sure when they were repainted to only Canadian green, but I also have images of these trailers in use in Bosnia in 2001 still sporting the NATO camouflage.



I have imagery from 2002 that shows these trailers now painted green only.



I cannot say if they were ever painted white for a UN mission and would be interested to see an image of one so painted. I believe though that, the M101CDN2 Iltis trailers were not painted in the Canadian three-colour camouflage although once again if someone can come up with an image that shows one in CF use so painted, I would be pleased to see it.

[servicepub (RIP)]

I bemoan the lack of photos of the CFR plate!

[rob love]

As I recall, the black "stitching" was an early recall to prevent premature rusting, from the water collecting under the re-enforcing panels. It well could have been in the instructions then to touch up the pain, which by that time would have been the single colour. The 28 that I bought were hardly used and none of them showed any signs of cam. They were in the serial ranges of between 250 or so up to about 750. I'll recheck mine for any signs of cam underneath the green, but I don't believe there was any color but green on them.

The LSVW came out at the same time as these trailers, and were in green only. The HLVW was built around 89/90 if I recall, and they were camo'd. Could be that the 101Cdn2 fell right on the border of the implementation, and the paint scheme was changed during production.

[rob love]

Yes, but my thought is that it may have been the paint scheme at the beginning of production, and dropped during production. I still have not gone to mine to see if there is any other colours under the green.

Thanks for the pics...unusual to see them cammed in this end of the country.

[Scott Bentley]

Not sure if the point came up here at all, but what I find more entertaining than wether the trailer was mono 383 Green or Nato Temperate 3 Colour Cam (I've also seen both), was that it was never painted to match the Vehicle that it was designed to be towed by....

[rob love]

By the late late 80s we were going to the NATO cam as opposed to the Cdn 3 colour cam. The M101Cdn2 was produced at the tail end of the NATO cam era while the Iltis was in the tail end of the 3 colour Cdn era. By the mid 90s, both would have been correct in the solid green. Not sure I ever saw an Iltis in solid green though.

[rob love]

The chrome rims and oversize tires are cool too. That one owuld have had a hub change I would assume.

I modified one over to a tailgate and painted it red for a customer. It was, when cutting out the tailgate, that I realized just how heavy these things were built. It took a lot longer than I thought it would to cut through the metal.