National Military History Center to auction WWII vehicles

[Darrell Zinck]

Hi Hanno

Thanks for that. I hadn't seen Clive's earlier post.

Hmmm.................we've this Severance Package $$ available............

regards
Darrell

[Corey Myronuk]

Id love to get my hands on that 12 ton prime mover...that trailer would come in handy

[rob love]

Better make sure you are sitting down before opening this link: http://www.auctionsamerica.com/event...ouping=&page=1

Ebay has nothing over these guys.

[Wayne Henderson]

I had a look at the vehicle prices and they seem about right and some appear to be a good buy, the Morris for instance.

The artillery prices (in my opinion) were spot on. The 88 was cheap (all depending what bits are there/missing).
German stuff is always going to attract a higher price as this is now the realm of the rich collector or "I sold off my 3 American Tanks to buy a German one".

If that half trac quad was even 80% there it was a steal.

Buying "Museum Restorations" has to be done with care and a careful inspection of the work carried out before hand. A good curator with an even better budget can do great things but a good curator with no budget does what he/she can.

I started restoring military stuff 30 years ago because there was plenty of stuff around and it was cheap. Not anymore but I"m not buying a train set just yet.

Wayne Henderson
Perth Western Australia

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Each one of us can make his/her remarks about a certain lot being sold for a steal or at a ridiculous price, I am only listing some of the Commonwealth prices here for future reference:

Lot: 102 1940 Ariel W/NG Motorcycle Sold for $ 6,200

Lot: 108 1940 Norton 16H Motorcycle Sold for $ 8,000

Lot: 122 1941 Chevrolet C15 CMP Personnel Carrier Sold for $ 25,000

Lot: 126 1944 Standard 12 HP Light Utility Car Sold for $ 17,000

Lot: 139 1940 Loyd Full-Track Carrier Sold for $ 25,000

Lot: 152 1940 Morris Commercial PU 8/4 4x4 Wireless Truck Sold for $ 12,000

Lot: 154 1944 Windsor Mark I Full-Track Universal Carrier C49WC Sold for $ 30,000

Lot: 161 1942 Ford Universal Mk I, No. 3 Full-Track Carrier Sold for $ 29,000

Lot: 167 1940 Humber Hexonaut GS 6x6 Amphibious Prototype Sold for $ 47,500

Lot: 175 1943 Chevrolet C60L CMP 4x4 General Service Truck Sold for $ 16,000

Lot: 178 1941 Humber FWD Utility Car Sold for $ 33,000

Lot: 182 1942 Velocette MAF Motorcycle Sold for $ 7,500

There was somethinig to be had for each and every one's liking.....

H.

[Stew Robertson]

I guess I will stir some S***t but to my way of thinking the prices were on average, pretty damned good
There was some excellent deals and some bad ones but it sure gives a pretty good indication as to what the world market is.
There was bidders from around the world and they paid what they were willing to
Also the prices at the sale you can add at least another 22% plus shipping cost
NOW CALCULATE THE PRICE OF THE VEHICLES then take them home and restore them to running condition ( another 40 to 50 % ) unless they go into another museum.
the people have spoken and now it is a new game
"thought for the day"
Don,t you wish 35 years ago we had saved more? :

[lynx42]

Originally Posted by Stew Robertson

NOW CALCULATE THE PRICE OF THE VEHICLES then take them home and restore them to running condition ( another 40 to 50 % ) unless they go into another museum.
:

After the famous Australian Museum sale in 2006, I restored the M3A1 White Scout Car. The final figure was almost 150% times the purchase price which was also quite high.

There was not one part which had missed out on the ravages of time. For example the transfer case was full of water and was almost 1 solid piece. The only item saved was the casing. 1/2 inch nuts and bolts on the chassis had rotted through, etc. etc.

Still it is now on the road, loved by it's owner and used often. Which is far better than sitting in a museum.

regards Rick.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Stew Robertson

There was bidders from around the world and they paid what they were willing to
Also the prices at the sale you can add at least another 22% plus shipping cost

See Auburn auction of World War II military vehicles, artifacts raises nearly $3 million for a short account on a collector from France snapping up the most expensive items. Buyers premium was a mere 15%, according to the article.

Also:

An unofficial report showed approximately $2.98 million in “hammer price” sales would go to the museum. The auction company adds a 15 percent bidder’s premium to each sale, which would bring the total sale close to $3.5 million.

This would mean the museum can pay it's unpaid bills and the rest of the vehicles will remain on display (including Rob's beloved F60B)? See Kruse WW2 Victory Museum - Auburn, IN - 2012 and Kruse WW2 Victory Museum - Auburn, IN - 2007/2009 for pictures of the museum's vehicle collection.

H.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Commonwealth wise, there are some interesting vehicles for sale, like the Morris PU 8x4, Windsor carrier, Loyd carrier, Standard Tilly........anyone spot the F60B anywhere in the auction (it was far from complete if I rememer correctly)?

This is a well travelled Standard Utility: it originally came from the UK, then to Victory Museum in Belgium, then to USA, back to UK and now in the Netherlands.


Recently I found the Victory Museum catalogue from my visit to the museum in Arlon, Belgium in the early 1990s:
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Also a picture of when it was on display in the Kruse WW2 Victory Museum - Auburn, IN in 2007: https://www.vgbimages.com/AFV-Photos...ictory-Museum/:
Standard-Tilly_Kruse-WW2-Victory-Museum_Auburn-IN- USA_2007-2009.jpg


When it was auctioned in 2012: https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/m...p-light/734468.
It was bought by Richard D. Waistell and bought back to Berkshire, England:
1944 Standard 12 HP Light_RM-auctions_2012.jpg


It came back on the market in 2020 and was then sold to a Dutch collector.
As it stands today undergoing maintenance at Martin IJdo's Historic Engineering:
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