Ford Blitz Restoration/Rebuild

[Ganmain Tony]

Here's some photo's from mine - there are two arrangements in the manuals and that can make it seem confusing.

But it isnt really (once youve completed it of course)..

Phil is correct, the line to the back brakes runs down the left hand side. The lines to the front run along their respective sides.
You need three flex hoses in all...

[Keith Webb]

Actually it's 4 hoses on a 4X4, one to go to the front axle, one for each front wheel, and another to go to the rear axle.

Originally Posted by Ganmain Tony

Here's some photo's from mine - there are two arrangements in the manuals and that can make it seem confusing.

But it isnt really (once youve completed it of course)..

Phil is correct, the line to the back brakes runs down the left hand side. The lines to the front run along their respective sides.
You need three flex hoses in all...

[Keith Webb]

GTony, yours is correct, you're just missing the clamps.



You can see it's the same on both sides as on this very original ex RAAF F60L.

The rubber pipe is also original as this truck was fitted for a braked trailer.

[Ganmain Tony]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

Actually it's 4 hoses on a 4X4, one to go to the front axle, one for each front wheel, and another to go to the rear axle.

Only three old boy...only three.

There are two layouts in the manual. One uses 4 the other uses 3.

[Private_collector]

Originally Posted by Ganmain Tony

Only three old boy...only three.

There are two layouts in the manual. One uses 4 the other uses 3.

My vehicle does have three flexible lines on front end. One from chassis to a three-way junction on left of diff housing, from there the copper lines (cheese now!) go outwards to a bracket on each end of the axle tubes. The flexible lines to the wheel cylinders start at that bracket. Three front lines in total. The mortal remains of the rubber hoses were still there for me to cheat off.

There is now a great wealth of photos posted here in last few days. Maybe they could be gathered and copied to a thread specifically for poor boobs like me to mooch off!

General hint, moderators

[Ganmain Tony]

Originally Posted by Private_collector

My vehicle does have three flexible lines on front end. One from chassis to a three-way junction on left of diff housing, from there the copper lines (cheese now!) go outwards to a bracket on each end of the axle tubes. The flexible lines to the wheel cylinders start at that bracket. Three front lines in total. The mortal remains of the rubber hoses were still there for me to cheat off.

There is now a great wealth of photos poted here in last few days. Maybe they could be gathered and copied to a thread specifically for poor boobs like me to mooch off!

General hint, moderators

Yours may very well be the set up that uses 4 flex hoses. Mine used 3.

Raises all sorts of questions as to when and why each arrangement was used and well worth discussing.

Myself - Id stick with the simpler arrangement. However if yours originally came with 4 flex hose arrangment you'll probably want to stick with that.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Private_collector

There is now a great wealth of photos poted here in last few days. Maybe they could be gathered and copied to a thread specifically for poor boobs like me to mooch off!

General hint, moderators

Tony, good point, when I have the time I'll pick up the challenge to merge the brake line related postings with the thread I posted earlier.

Hanno

[Private_collector]

Cool. Cheers Hanno.

That'll be good Karma.

My karma ran over my dogma.

[Private_collector]

Brake lines from master 1.jpg Brake lines from master 2.jpg
All the remaining brake lines are now formed and ready for having the ends flared. I had no trouble making the front line in one piece, but was very surprised to find that I could not do the rear without having a join. It was impossible to have the rear pipe as I wanted without needing to bend it horribly getting it out of the frame again. I tried a number of ways, but always had to spend a lot of time re-straightening the tube. Hard to do with the line out of chassis, and virtually impossible to get it straight once it had been fed back in again. The join will be just rear of the transfer case cross member.
Brake line front 1.jpg Brake line front 2.jpg
I found a suitable bracket for the front end, where the pipe joins flexible hose. It's still very rusty right now. When I went to use the compressor I found it laboring to turn over, so shut it down before it blew up. Off to the compressor repair people again, I guess. In the meantime, no sandblasting at home .
Brake line rear 1.jpg
I made a rear pipe bracket, as per photos Jacques had posted, but realised I would need to drill another hole through the chassis wall to attach it to, so I made one that would use one of the holes already existing in the rail. The white color is etch primer, and the hose in the photo is one of my front axle to brake cylinder ones. I'm yet to buy the ones going from frame to axles.

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by Ganmain Tony

Only three old boy...only three.

There are two layouts in the manual. One uses 4 the other uses 3.

Yes, 3 on a 4X2, 4 on a 4X4, unless early ones used the 4X2 type of arrangement.

[Ganmain Tony]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

Yes, 3 on a 4X2, 4 on a 4X4, unless early ones used the 4X2 type of arrangement.

The manual Ive got published June 1943 says the 3 flex layout used for F15 and F15A.

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by Ganmain Tony

The manual Ive got published June 1943 says the 3 flex layout used for F15 and F15A.

LOL, OK you win... but have you ever seen one on a cab 13 Ford?

[Ganmain Tony]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

LOL, OK you win... but have you ever seen one on a cab 13 Ford?

I certainly have not Keefy... fair comment.

The manual also has the 4 flex layout using the booster as well. This would indicate that the booster system used 4 flex hoses only and not 3. Which would seem to indicate Ive set mine up incorrectly.

Crucial thing is it works very well when Im driving

Creates a mystery which I'm sure someone on here knows the answer to.

Ive only got theories, alas no facts.