Communication unit markings

[Eric B]

Hello Dano and Dan

Thanks for the replies.

Here is the link for the Sir Wilfred Laurier U Library digital collection.

There are more Communications vehicle photos on line.

http://images.ourontario.ca/Laurier/...military&st=kw



I have seen the vehicles at the Sig Museum. Markings were not correct on all of the vehicles.

It was my understanding that the 1 indicated 1st CDN Sigs Regt and that 2 was for the 2nd CDN Sig Regt?

Dan, any possibility of getting a photo copy of Annex F "Vehicle Unit Signs" of CAMT 1-36, Volume 3 ? Or scan e-mail to cmpmagazine@hotmail.com.

Rob Measurements would be nice to have.
Thanks

Eric

[Dano McLaren]

The 1 was for the 1st Div. Sigs regiment vehicles were numbered with 30. Not really sure why. I know the 1 is correct as we were posted to 2 Sigs in Petawawa in the mid to late 60s. I have a few pictures of my Dad on the drop zone with vehicles that would have been attached to 2 Sigs. Also a shot of the sign from in front of the HQ and Sigs building with MobCom on the left and the white over blue with the number 1 on top.

[Jon Skagfeld]

Originally Posted by Eric B

Hello Dano and Dan

Thanks for the replies.

Here is the link for the Sir Wilfred Laurier U Library digital collection.

There are more Communications vehicle photos on line.

http://images.ourontario.ca/Laurier/...military&st=kw



I have seen the vehicles at the Sig Museum. Markings were not correct on all of the vehicles.

It was my understanding that the 1 indicated 1st CDN Sigs Regt and that 2 was for the 2nd CDN Sig Regt?

Dan, any possibility of getting a photo copy of Annex F "Vehicle Unit Signs" of CAMT 1-36, Volume 3 ? Or scan e-mail to cmpmagazine@hotmail.com.

Rob Measurements would be nice to have.
Thanks

Eric

Re: Laurier pictures of military vehicles.

Fifth down, Signal Centre, at the entrance, shows an AoS of white over blue with red 40 in the centre. The Div sign could be blue, that would make it HQ 2 Div Sigs.

That was a wartime marking. Odd that it would be used in 1957.

Perhaps an old-timer SQMS had it squirreled away in his Stores?

[Dan Martel]

Originally Posted by Eric B

Dan, any possibility of getting a photo copy of Annex F "Vehicle Unit Signs" of CAMT 1-36, Volume 3 ?

Sent you a transcript of it this morning.

What needs to be remembered is that at different periods after the war the Canadian Army (Regular) was organized first as a brigade, then as a division and then as brigade groups. Each change would have changed the serials on a vehicle's AoS as the situation dictated.

The appendix I quoted for my answer, from 1963, was for the period the Army was organized into brigade groups (1958-66), each group using identical serials. During the period the Army had a divisional organization (circa 1954-58), divisional serials would have been used and I don't think that they would have differed greatly from those used in the Second World War.

Also remember that the Reserves were organized into six divisions during the 50's, four infantry and two armoured, along with the troops required for two corps. Who knows how many different serials, of all kinds, were being used during this time.

It's a good field for study, with lots of answers yet to be found.

Cheers,
Dan.

[Eric B]

Hello Dan

Thanks for the info, both on MLU and the e-mail.

Yes the 1960 - 70 era is challenging when it comes to vehicle markings.

There was definetly an overlap in some markings. As Jon noticed there were even WW2 era style markings in 1957.

Before i put any numbers on mine i will wait to get things confirmed, as it is 1967 and later the 1963 orders might be outdated.

I still have some time, as i have the frame to clean up before i start the assembly.

If you noticed, the 1967 M38A1 at the Communications Museum has 1966 plates and Div markings. For 1967, I beleive it should have Mobile Command and DND plates.

If anybody is interested for the Dodge M series there was an order to put the CFR on the drivers side along the top edge of the cab when the spare tire was mounted on the door.

Thanks

Eric