Vehicle Door Numbers Canada

[Bob Carriere]

Wilf

This is from a snapshot home picture Rob Clarke found at a militaria show and gave me.

It is a C8 possibly taken early in WWII in Farnham PQ.....

Took me a long time to understand that ........ R. De Chaud ...... meant

Regiment de Chaudiere
Z
40-1-703

Colin .......I understand the WWII issue but not being ex military what is the meaning of the RCASC abreviation and the significance of NOT being RCASC

...never to old to learn.

[Phil Waterman]

Hi All


Just to add to the fun and maybe the knowledge base take a look through the old photos I bought on e-bay several years ago of CMPs in Service in British Columbia. Where visible they many seem to Z two numbers then a dash and then three numbers. But not all of them follow that pattern.

http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/C...20Columbia.htm

Cheers Phil

[Colin Macgregor Stevens]

Phil

#2 Provost jeep appears to have unit sign of 40 (would be white on black) and that was for Divisional Headquarters

#3 Gun is a 40mm Bofors Anti-aircraft Gun

#6 Spence's Bridge (not Spencer's)

# 15 Cwt Cab 13 (1942-1945 production)

#6, #9, #11,#12 #14 all appear to be of the same accident where a towed Gun, a 40mm Bofors Anti-aircraft Gun slipped off the road onto a down slope ("some ditch!" as Churchill might have said) You can check your original photos to see if the towing vehicle is a 60 Cwt GS Lorry (New DND number would start with L) or a 30 Cwt. LAAT (Light Anti-Aicraft Tractor). If the latter, the New DND number should start with H for Tractor.

#13 CMP Cab 12 15 Cwt. The NEW DND number Z57-092 means it was Z = Truck, and the 7,092nd (or 7,091st? as numbering started at 50-001) vehicle recorded on the new system which started about January 1943. This particular truck would have had a n OLD DND number previously.

The convoy appears to be heading North up the Fraser Canyon from around Military Camp Chilliwack towards Prince George, BC.

There are two options:

1. That this is part of the 8th Canadian Infantry Division (Northern British Columbia), Mar. 1942 - Oct. 1943 Divisional troops based in Prince George
14th Infantry Brigade (Terrace)
16th Infantry Brigade (Prince George)

2. That it is one of the special winter exercises during the war.


Colin Stevens

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

Hi All


Just to add to the fun and maybe the knowledge base take a look through the old photos I bought on e-bay several years ago of CMPs in Service in British Columbia. Where visible they many seem to Z two numbers then a dash and then three numbers. But not all of them follow that pattern.

http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/C...20Columbia.htm

Cheers Phil

[Colin Macgregor Stevens]

Bob:

Good question.

R.C.A.S.C. = Royal Canadian Army Service Corps

The truck in your photo is apparently a C15, not a C8. Note the step below the door. Front axle appears to be straight so would be 4x2 not 4x4.

The abbreviation does mean Regiment de la Chaudiere but as seen in the photo it is abbreviated

R.DE.CHAUD.
Z
40-1-703

Z = truck
40 the year it came into Canadian Army service
-1- - It was NOT on special issue to the RCASC which had their own number systemwhich was silly as there could be a truck with 40-703 as well!
703 = 703rd vehicle taken on strength in 1940.

The unit abbreviated name would have been painted over in 1942.

This unit later landed in Normandy but this truck almost certainly never left Canada and was used during training. For D-Day. mostly new Cab 13 vehicles were used.

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Wilf

This is from a snapshot home picture Rob Clarke found at a militaria show and gave me.

It is a C8 possibly taken early in WWII in Farnham PQ.....

Took me a long time to understand that ........ R. De Chaud ...... meant

Regiment de Chaudiere
Z
40-1-703

Colin .......I understand the WWII issue but not being ex military what is the meaning of the RCASC abreviation and the significance of NOT being RCASC

...never to old to learn.

[cletrac (RIP)]

Bob's picture is an early 1940 cab 11 C15 with the wooden 2A1 box. Note no air vents.

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Colin

Stand corrected on the C15......

But I still do not understand the significance of NOT being on special issue to the RCASC......

... who did it belong to then ????? it was assigned to a Canadian Regiment

.... what would have been a "special issue" a unit..... ??? sent oversea..


Still puzzled......

Bob

[derk derin]

Here are the original markings found on the doors of my Ford 3 ton cab 13 CMP.With some searching I finally found a tag on my steering box with a date 1-43 so I now know when it was built.We had discussed these markings on my door in the past but I would have to search back to see what was said.
Derk.

[Bill Alexander]

The top line, A 19 CASCTC is for A 19 Canadian Army Service Corps Training Centre, originally organized in 1938 as Permanent Force Training Centre 1. It was alloted the A 19 designation on February 15, 1941.

[rob love]

A-19 will be the designation for the Canadian Army Service Corp Training Center that the truck belonged to. L is for Lorry, and the remainder is the DND number assigned to the truck.

The date on the steering box is a casting date. It may have been a while before that casting made it onto the truck, so that may not be the best way to date the vehicle. It is also possible the steering box got changed out at some point. However, since your truck has the holes for the bumper reflectors, and does not have the FORD script on the cowl, that date is possible.

[Gordon Yeo]

Here is a door number in the Chev 60 cwt that was a signals truck. What would the door numbers represent on this vehicle?