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Old 19-06-13, 00:30
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Agreed, 70 years of tinkering can lead to anything! Always check the details. Lynn, my 24 stud 3.6 litre flathead has a British mod, possibly the one you mention as 'on riveted carriers'. There is a waisted fitting that slips down the vertical bell housing oil pump outlet port this directs all oil flow (except the rear main and associated feed parts) to a cooler or filter etc and back to the horizontal bell housing fitting, as the vertical fitting is waisted oil can flow around it and into the main oil gallery. There is no internal plug or third threaded hole in the bell housing, i.e. standard truck service v8.
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Old 19-06-13, 01:31
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Alastair, I thought the long, waisted fitting went into the (top or extra) angled hole, and went down to the cam gear cavity, and that the short fitting went into the main supply from the oil pump(vertical hole.
You however say it is the other way around. Can someone back up Alistairs info to clarify this.
Andrew have you checked any 21 stud motors? (riveted carrier ones)

Just trying to get to the bottom of this for everyone's benefit.
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Old 19-06-13, 10:57
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Lynn,
Here is a photo of the engine as I found it:


There is a standard 't' piece to mount the pressure switch and what looks like a normal fitting in the vertical passage, however this goes into the block around 1.5". For all I know this could be a post war mod, or a British Generator mod as this engine was used as an Altenator driver at some point. I will get a photo of the waisted fitting when I can and post it up. In my view the angled oil return hole used on carriers and a post war mod would just need to be a standard fitting.

The 59A block (1945-48) I have in reserve is a different casting with an angled boss ready to drill and tap into the main oil gallery.
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Old 19-06-13, 11:08
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Did some measurements today. Local Pattern New Zealand Carrier plug.
The plug is 7/16 inch long with a 3/16 inch hole in it. Thread is 1/4 NPT,
Has a slot at one end so it can be screwed into the halfway point in the horizontal gallery.
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Old 19-06-13, 12:07
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Alistair, The "boss" on the back of the engine in your large picture has two holes in it that are there for the gallery drillings, and are otherwise common.
The second pic. (59 block) shows the other "boss' undrilled. That is the one the small diameter long fitting goes in.
The next thing after we have confirmation of this, is the details of the drilling (hole dia.)

Andrew; thanks for the dimensions.
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Old 19-06-13, 15:00
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The second pic. (59 block) shows the other "boss' undrilled. That is the one the small diameter long fitting goes in.
I don't see why is would need to be any kind of special long fitting, the hole drilled into the blank boss just breaks into the main oil gallery / the far end of the horizontal drilling from the large boss. Could you post a photo of the fittings? I can compare with those found on mine. There is a good US site that explains how to modify a standard truck / car block to carrier spec. http://midstateantiquestockcarclub.c...t-heads10.html
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Old 19-06-13, 16:21
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