Wanted: 30cal. 1919 or parts to build one non functional

[rob love]

WRT the airsoft, that is where the threshold of 366+ fps comes in. That is the speed that the firearms lab has determined can cause serious bodily harm, and is therefore legal to have without controls.

Re the transportation of replicas, note that the transportation requirements are actually greater for a replica than the requirements for a real gun. You can have a real rifle (non-restricted) in the front seat with you, the only requirement being that it is unloaded.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

WRT the airsoft, that is where the threshold of 366+ fps comes in. That is the speed that the firearms lab has determined can cause serious bodily harm, and is therefore legal to have without controls.

Re the transportation of replicas, note that the transportation requirements are actually greater for a replica than the requirements for a real gun. You can have a real rifle (non-restricted) in the front seat with you, the only requirement being that it is unloaded.

How then doe this make sense?

"Some airsoft guns, resembling with near precision an existing make and model of a firearm, are replica firearms and therefore prohibited devices."

It looks to me like airsoft is getting more and more into lifelike versions. Their website has wood and metal service rifles patterned exactly after things like Kar 98's, Stens and M1 carbines. But I also see that they have a page for Canada permitted items and these are not on it. It follows therefore that they are not legal here and the RCMP quote makes sense.

Sort of.

What is available in Canada are lifelike metal M-16's. So why is an airsoft M16 OK but not a Kar98?

[cletrac (RIP)]

If a person has a homemade lifelike replica, who's to say if he had it before 1998 or not? I'd say they were all built before 1998.

[Lynn Eades]

What am absolutely charming piece of legislation. When was common sense murdered in Canada? That's just sad. I doubt that your (below?) average politicians would understand those laws. How is the public supposed to follow them?
I took this little line from another forum;

"A democracy is two wolves and a sheep,voting on what's for supper".

It makes understanding how we arrived at where we are, easier.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Lynn Eades

When was common sense murdered in Canada?

I'm going to expose my politics here...but it started was when we elected Pierre Trudeau as Prime Minister. If that's not bad enough we now have his idiot love child son as leader of the Liberal party with a fair chance of becoming our next leader. That's gonna hurt.

[Lynn Eades]

Sorry Bruce. My volley is directed more at the mass of badly worded (and thought out) laws that various governments have dumped on us.
Have you ever thought about how good those old (and more simple) law were?
Back then, I think the people drafting them, had a good grip of the language.
As far as home is concerned, I think there are far more laws on the books that have been put there since 1980, than existed before then.
Have a nice day Bruce

Derailed? What rails?

[Little Jo]

Hi Guys

As mentioned earlier I sought legal advice for my .30 Cal via my Lawyer to the SA Firearms Branch. The advice I received in writing, that I am OK in South Australia. However I should add that this is not the same case in every state of Australia as the law varies dramatically from state to state, as restorers will attest too when going to Corowa for the annual get together. The inference being that "If it looks like a gun, then it must be a gun".

A member of our club has decided to purchase a complete Resin .50 Cal from the USA from International Antique Weapons to mount on a pedestal on his Jeep. He sought advice from the SA Firearms Branch and was told they were not interested as it was a toy...!!! and he would not need a permit or register it as a replica. The only time police Firearms Branch would require to see and register a replica was if it had "Any moving parts". He also contacted Australian Customs and was told he could import it into SA without any problems as it was a toy. This was a bit of a surprise. However as I stated earlier, the legislation varies in every state of Australia. I would not dream of taking my .30 Cal outside of my state.

Cheers

Tony

[motto]

Hi Tony.

Has this fellow wanting to import the resin .50 Cal 'toy' actually done so? I hope he has such assurance in writing but I doubt it.

Australian Customs are notorious for giving off the cuff answers to enquiries that are worthless when it comes to the crunch because so much discretion is given to the individual officer. Strike the right bloke and all's well. Strike the wrong bloke and you are in deep, deep do doos because they've got the power.

Also on the topic of 'weapons'. Whilst at Corowa this year I heard a story out of SA that a Jeep owner had been ordered by a member of the police force to remove the axe from his vehicle and not to carry it in future. Is this fact or furphy?

David