Tyre Rims Chevrolet MCP

[Lionelgee]

G'day David,

Thank you for the informative reply about the quirks of MCP Chevrolet Trucks.

I found a photograph that might answer my own question about how far the rubber seal extended from the frame of the tilt up windscreens. Mine is nearly non-existent. This Australian War Memorial photograph shows what looks like a closed tilt up windscreen. It looks like there are two hinges roughly in the same place as the other photographs I have found so far.

Photograph Details below

P.S. I found a photograph of a US truck of a type that I am unsure what it is - however it looks to have a modified version of the tilt windscreen except it does not have a internal centre frame with a handle. The top hinges seem to be spaced further apart from the centred of the windscreen as well.


Kind Regards
Lionel


Attached Photo 1 is -
ID number 053414
Photographer Stuckey, Norman Bradford
Object type Black & white
Physical description Black & white
Collection Photograph

Description

YUNGABURRA, QLD. 1943-07-08. ARMY TRUCK OF THE 2ND AUSTRALIAN CORPS COMBINED CAMOUFLAGE TRAINING SCHOOL EQUIPPED WITH GARNISHED NETS (ON TOP OF CABIN). WHEN NECESSARY, THESE NETS ARE THROWN OVER THE VEHICLE. SHOWN: SERGEANT (SGT) KEMP; SGT HALES; SGT FRANCIS; CORPORAL ROBERTS; LANCE CORPORAL HARTILL.

Accessed 13th September 2013
Permalink: http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/053414

Attached Photo 2 is -
ID number 060384
Photographer Halmarick, Colin Thomas
Object type Black & white
Physical description Black & white
Collection Photograph

Description

SOGERI, NEW GUINEA. 1943-11-20. A TIMBER HAULING TRUCK OF THE SCHOOL OF SIGNALS, NEW GUINEA FORCE MOVING ALONG A MUDDY JUNGLE TRACK TO PICK UP A LOAD OF LOGS FOR THE SAWMILL.
Accessed 13th September 2013
Permalink: http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/060384

[motto (RIP)]

The photo on the right is of a G506 Chevrolet 1-1/2 ton 4x4 commonly known in Australia as a Yankee Joe
These were a standardised US Army vehicle built in substantial numbers and an interesting mix of GMC and Chev components. They were powered by a 235 cubic inch splash feed engine coupled to the common Chev four speed box of the time and a company produced two speed transfer case peculiar to the vehicle.
Very few were used by the Australian forces as this class of truck was nearly all made up of CMPs so not common here. Most that have come to light seem to have been earth borer/pole setters and I don't personally know of one in Australia that has the original distinctive cargo body as in this photo. Note the unusually wide side sill.
There was still 18 months before wars end when the photo was taken and the truck is already looking somewhat dilapidated and doing heavy work. What chance of survival for this one?
Windscreen wise, the Yankee Joe was the same as the GMC CCKW 6x6 hard cab. It used external hinges and had no centre support. Instead they had a slider at each end running on a bolt attached to the door pillar and a wing-nut or knurled nut to clamp them similar to the way a Jeep windscreen works.
The L/L trucks stayed with the civilian type internal concealed hinges and centrally positioned winder right the way through so far as I am aware.
David

[jack neville]

Lionel,

I am not sure of the tilt windscreens on other trucks or the hinge arrangement/manufacture but I do know on the early Fords used by Australia that the 39 Ford truck/pick up windscreen was continued in use on the 40-42 Ford trucks.

The 39 Ford had a dual swing out hinge with a winder on the dash. Ford went to two piece fixed windscreens in 1940 but to continue using tilt windscreen the Australian Army continued using the 39 windscreen but had to make new hinges to adapt to the changed windscreen frame on the cab. And they are a bastard to get lined up.

Those familiar with Chevs may be able to enlighten as to whether any similar change took place with those civvy truck cabs.

[Ganmain Tony]

Been through this exercise before Lionel...wrt tyres and rims...

Davids explanation is great so I wont add anything else to confuse. Just some pictures...

The thread I posted on this truck is called 'Its infectious' and is on the Softskin Forum. You'll also see the hoops I jumped through in regards to the front brakes.

[Lionelgee]

Originally Posted by Ganmain Tony

Been through this exercise before Lionel...wrt tyres and rims...

Davids explanation is great so I wont add anything else to confuse. Just some pictures...

The thread I posted on this truck is called 'Its infectious' and is on the Softskin Forum. You'll also see the hoops I jumped through in regards to the front brakes.

G'day Tony,

Thank you for the reply Tony. I did remember the "it's infectious" link thank you. I think I even contributed a mis-direction about the front brakes too accidentally. How is the restoration of this Chevy and your 2wd Ford CMP going? Any updates

Kind Regards
Lionel

[motto (RIP)]

Lionel,
The vehicle in the attachment on your #11 post is a Ford. I'm not really familiar with them but two things readily identify the marque. One is the three ribs on the door just below the window.
The other is the radiator divided down the middle. The V8 had two water pumps and the radiator had two inlets and two outlets, an inlet and outlet for each side. They are unmistakable.

David

[Chevrolet 41]

Hello Lionel,

Don't worry about hijacking the thread mate. Would be good to have everything on the one heading for the 1. 1/5 L/L Chevs.

Getting back to your rear brake light, I would guesstimate it is original or close to it as far as year of manufacture goes. Mine had smaller and more conical shaped ones which I believe are avail on the reproduction market if you wanted to compare them.

http://www.oldchevytrucks.com/cart/i...g%2FTaillights

These show other types. Seems to be a lot of variants unfort.

Cheers

[Lionelgee]

Originally Posted by jack neville

Lionel,

I am not sure of the tilt windscreens on other trucks or the hinge arrangement/manufacture but I do know on the early Fords used by Australia that the 39 Ford truck/pick up windscreen was continued in use on the 40-42 Ford trucks.

The 39 Ford had a dual swing out hinge with a winder on the dash. Ford went to two piece fixed windscreens in 1940 but to continue using tilt windscreen the Australian Army continued using the 39 windscreen but had to make new hinges to adapt to the changed windscreen frame on the cab. And they are a bastard to get lined up.

Those familiar with Chevs may be able to enlighten as to whether any similar change took place with those civvy truck cabs.

G'day Jack,

Thank you for the post and the information on Ford MCPs with tilt windscreens. Is the truck in the attachment a Ford? It is hard for me to tell without the grille. It looks like it is one of the ones that David described that have rods near the roof pillar. This is a different arrangement to mine. Description from the Australian War Memorial follows...

Kind Regards
Lionel

ID number 052815
Photographer McInnes, Geoffrey
Object type Black & white
Physical description Black & white
Collection Photograph

Description

DARWIN, NT. 1943-06-21. CRAFTSMEN OF 2/70 LIGHT AID DETACHMENT, ATTACHED TO 2/11 ARMY FIELD REGIMENT, GIVING A TRUCK A GENERAL OVERHAUL. THEY ARE:- VX28171 CRAFTSMAN S. WENTWORTH (LEFT); NX79557 SIGNALLER F. BADHAM.
Accessed 13th September 2013
Permalink: http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/052815