Heads Up: CMPs for sale in Holland

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

C15 offered for sale on the gaf92.nl site - check link for details.

It is ftted with a diesel engine and has some sort of tackle in the rear body. WD Census number Z5194970 is said to be the original.

No connections.

Back for sale on gaf92.nl:

Naam: Gerard van der Sangen
Datum: 17 September 2013
Telnr.: 0622291015
Lokatie: Veldhoven, Nederland
Rubriek: Chevrolet
Aangeboden: TE KOOP

Merk: Chevrolet Canada
Type: CWT 15 4x2
Uitvoering: Munitietransporter met transportinrichting/takel voor munitie

Bijzonderheden:
deze CWT is gebouwd in 1942 en afgeleverd aan de luchtdoelafdeling Straf 8e Leger (Desert rats)
Onderkant en o.a. motorcompartiment dragen de originele (gele) lak.
Bouwjaar 1942, maar omstreeks 1944/45 voorzien van een dieselmotor: Perkins Diesel 6 cylinder.
Voertuig is door de vorige eigenaar opgeverfd als Irene Brigade 1943-1945.
Aanvang 2013 voorzien van 4 nieuw binnen- en buitenbanden.
Recent grote beurt gehad bij American Cars te Schinnen.
Loopt en rijdt goed;
Wordt weggedaan wegens plaatsgebrek.

Vraagprijs: € 9.000,-

Info (via de mail): geheel vrijblijvend!
Mail: rmmjacobs1971@hotmail.com

[Alex van de Wetering]

Yes it is the same water trailer , it was as Hanno says on long therm loan with several other trailers and GMC`s from the Dutch Army . How they got away with selling these I don`t know.

Ouch, not good. I thought that was something from the 80's.....selling or giving away items that were on loan...It's sad to hear that it's still happening!

[Markwin Serlui]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Back for sale on gaf92.nl:

So much for it being sold to a museum
Anyway, from 5500€ to 9000€ a year later....

[Alex van de Wetering]

Ford F8 Cab 12 with lengthened short box for sale. (as well as the British bike in front of it). For details please see the pictures.

Alex

[Maurice Donckers]

Only question is why put an invasion star on a desert collar painted vehicle ?

[svdwal]

This sounds like an interesting offer, i've sended you an private message Alex.

Hope to hear from you,

Kind regards,

Sjoerd van de Wal

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by svdwal

This sounds like an interesting offer, i've sended you an private message Alex.

Sjoerd,

If you refer to the F8 for sale, you can contact the owner Niels Witten, his contact details are in the second picture.

Regards,
Hanno

[svdwal]

Thanks Hanno,

I saw it and sended him a email, thank you for mentioning.
Who knows, this might be the truck i'm searching.

Rgds.

Sjoerd

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Ford F8 Cab 12 with lengthened short box for sale. (as well as the British bike in front of it). For details please see the pictures.

Here are some more before, during & after pictures of the same F8.

What is a "lengthened short box"?

HTH,
Hanno

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by svdwal

Invasion star is indeed a bit strange, but it will get a repaint anyway to get it more authentic for Western Europe.

Hello Sjoerd,

It is a nice truck, and fully restored as far as I know. I cannot give you a valuation as you know "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and "an object is worth what a fool will pay". Now let me state for the record this truck is a beaut and you are no fool!

If you study the threads and pictures on this forum, you will notice relatively few Cab 11 and Cab 12 CMPs were used in NW Europe, and 8-cwt trucks were no longer used by frontline units. So chances this type of CMP was used in NW Europe are very slim. That's possibly why the owner painted it Light Stone, as the 8-cwt class of vehicle was extensively used during the desert war. In my opinion, if you paint over the Allied invasion star, one will have a very good representation of what this type of truck looked like during WW2. Plus it makes a nice change in seeing mainly olive drab vehicles at shows!

HTH,
Hanno

[Alex van de Wetering]

What is a "lengthened short box"?

C8's/F8's cab 11 and early cab12 came with the 1A1 and 1A2 "short box". Later cab 12 C8's/F8's came with the 1B1/1B2 "long box".

Some short boxed trucks seemed to have been modified by streching the short box......there it is.....the "lengthened short box", As far as I know it's still not sure when this was done, why or by whom. Fact is that a number of trucks with these lengthened trucks survive in Canada. The lockers between box and cab were scrapped and fuel tanks moved to the sides of the frame rails.

I think the current consensus is that the conversion was done by the army when the Wireless trucks became obsolete (15cwt's took over the wireless role) They lengthened the box for cargo use and to stretch the service life of the 8cwt's.
So far I haven't seen any pics of these lenthened boxes in action in N-Africa or NWE which leads me to believe the conversion was done in the second half of WW2 for homeland use in Canada, but I have no evidence to back this up.

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ght=lengthened

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8147

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

C8's/F8's cab 11 and early cab12 came with the 1A1 and 1A2 "short box". Later cab 12 C8's/F8's came with the 1B1/1B2 "long box".

Some short boxed trucks seemed to have been modified by streching the short box......there it is.....the "lengthened short box", As far as I know it's still not sure when this was done, why or by whom. Fact is that a number of trucks with these lengthened trucks survive in Canada. The lockers between box and cab were scrapped and fuel tanks moved to the sides of the frame rails.

Thanks for sharing your findings, Alex. Helps me to scrub up my knowledge of Cab 11's and 12's.

As this F8 is a Cab 12, it could originally have been fitted with the "long box", right?

For me the question now is whether the replica box on the truck was copied from a "lengthened short box" or a "long box"?

Regards,
Hanno