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Old 03-02-14, 19:01
Bob Carriere Bob Carriere is offline
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Default Thanks Bruce

....back to the work bench to play with the Ohm metre.

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Old 03-02-14, 21:31
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Default I am back with test findings....

I Bruce.... last question first......

The lollipop No 1 that I am carefully disecting has some kind of black velvet removeable covers....

The other 2 No 10 have the chamois and another relatively new acquisition No 1 also has chamois on the ear pads.

To prevent confusion I will stick to the disected No 1 set.

See the attached picture of my findings..... note that I have added a letter A for the post on the RH earphone....then continued to the other 1, 2, 3 and added a Post plug 2 for the end return to the plug.

...so the left hand earphone seems to be open..!!!

Before I put on the gloves for internal surgery to the LH earphone.......

....when I played the radio through the RH earphone and went on to connect directly to the post 2 and 3 of the left hand earphone NO sound came out.... i.e. infinity readings. Now without taking apart the other earphone sets I got the same results from the 2 No 10 sets.... one earphone plays loud and clear the other is dead.... just a coincidence...?

Two other things I discovered....

One....
I took the microphone apart and applying the power source from the radio to the mic. I can hear clearly the sound coming from the metal mic set.... so that works.....

Two.....
The new relatively new old stock headset from the USA..... has a different black/red tracer cloth covering....with chamois on the earphone No 1 lollipop..... and the earphone works with the radio source.... BUT still only one earphone works...... AND I can trace/play the radio sound BUT by touching the post 2 green on the snatch plug instead of the common black no 3..... no response from the black post 3.....

Final questions.... are there any fuses inside the control box used on the wooden board for training... the control box has the 3 earphone connectors coming out the side and in the parts manual is referred to as .... control unit 3A MK II..

What's next Doctor...??

Bob C.
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Old 04-02-14, 01:08
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Final questions.... are there any fuses inside the control box used on the wooden board for training... the control box has the 3 earphone connectors coming out the side and in the parts manual is referred to as .... control unit 3A MK II..

Bob C.
No, the only control units with a fuse inside are the No.1 family (1, 1A & 17). The No.4 does not have a fuse and has the 12V supply wired straight through. The fuse is present to protect the wiring harness against short circuiting pin 10 (+12V) to ground if _only_ a single control unit (1, 1A or 17) is in use and the control unit is switched to either the the IC or B position.

On the headset front, check the earpiece continuity with an ohmmeter, infinity means it's duff, remove and faulty ones (undo the nuts and disconnect the wiring then spring the headband clips to remove the earpiece from the headband), and replace the faulty one with a "known good" earpiece from another headset.

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Old 04-02-14, 02:30
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Default Ready to operate....

...will disect the earphones tomorrow when the sun shines in the work room.....

Thanks for your help.....stay tuned.

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Old 12-02-14, 05:18
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Default Dissection complete.

Found a "minute" wisker of copper that WAS formerly connected to the voice coil..... broken....and so small as to make it impossible to mend..... copper wire is finer than a human hair.

So there were no continuity acroass the two ear piece..... which explains why only one earphone worked.

Much like when I dissected frogs in class I could never put the frog together again.... so that earphone is Kaput!!

Now will turn my attention to a more complete NO 1 set with chamois covers..... it also only works on one earphone..... but will tread lightly and not do a full irreversible dissection.

Meanwhile I have opened up the control box and using the previous schematic I beleive that I can installattach a more modern earphone, so looking at installing a 1/4 male/female jack. This should allow me to test further the rec/trans. and see if it work properly.

I fear that most of the rubber bellshaped connectors have corroded contacts and the rubber is as hard and brittle has hard wood. They may look OK for a static display but for actual use very impractical. I know of no means to make the rubber soft again. Installing a jack or having a female jack hang out of the control box is relatively easy as the boxes already have two soft rubber plugs to pass the wired through.

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