Family Appreciation Days – 31 May and 1 June 2014 - Ottawa

[servicepub (RIP)]

My understanding was that DND wanted liability insurance and/or waivers that were extreme so many MilVeh didn't show up last year. Does anyone know if this is still the case?
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[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by servicepub

My understanding was that DND wanted liability insurance and/or waivers that were extreme so many MilVeh didn't show up last year. Does anyone know if this is still the case?
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I can't speak for this event specifically, but as the OIC of an Armoury here in the NCR I can confirm that provision of services fees, security, liability, and insurance have all been big topics lately.

I get approached frequently by groups wanting to host events at the armoury. When I inform them of all the leg work they need to do, plus the insurance, most will look elsewhere.

Gone are the days of raffling off tickets at a Unit Family Day to have your significant other drive a Badger AEV over an old Honda

[Robin Craig]

I do know that this clashes with and event that is much more worthwhile attending, that is the event at the Ontario Regiment / Ferret club.

There is a significant amount of armour attending that has not been seen before and with some very cool history and people connected to those vehicles from their in service time.

That is where I am going and putting my support.

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[Eric B]

Hello Clive

Yes this is the event, which private MV owners were asked to assist DND by taking our vehicles as part of a display.

The individual vehicle owners were required to have liabilty insurance etc. (on top of regular auto insurance). Plus waivers needed to be signed. This did not make sense since we were invited to attend.

It makes sense to have that sort of insurance and waiver at a DND location if we were renting the facility for our own event. DND are not alone in asking this as many other property/ hall rental locations ask this.

It would also make sense if we were attending the DND event on behalf of a museum or club.

For example the Club or Museums insurance would cover members if they attended on behalf of the club/museum at an approved event, but it would not cover non members.

In any event this was not the case and spending money for extra insurance to attend an event we were asked to assist with just did not make sense.

The waiver was a little extreme, i beleive it would have held the individual vehicle owner liable if somebody happened to hurt themself while looking at the vehicle.

As Robin states there already is a worthwhile event, which MV owners are invited to attend, and it has special event insurance coverage.

Thanks

Eric

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by Eric B

Hello Clive

Yes this is the event, which private MV owners were asked to assist DND by taking our vehicles as part of a display.

The individual vehicle owners were required to have liabilty insurance etc. (on top of regular auto insurance). Plus waivers needed to be signed. This did not make sense since we were invited to attend.

It makes sense to have that sort of insurance and waiver at a DND location if we were renting the facility for our own event. DND are not alone in asking this as many other property/ hall rental locations ask this.

It would also make sense if we were attending the DND event on behalf of a museum or club.

For example the Club or Museums insurance would cover members if they attended on behalf of the club/museum at an approved event, but it would not cover non members.

In any event this was not the case and spending money for extra insurance to attend an event we were asked to assist with just did not make sense.

The waiver was a little extreme, i beleive it would have held the individual vehicle owner liable if somebody happened to hurt themself while looking at the vehicle.

As Robin states there already is a worthwhile event, which MV owners are invited to attend, and it has special event insurance coverage.

Thanks

Eric

Just out of curiosity, who did the request for OMVA attendance come from?

[maple_leaf_eh]

@Scott - don't confuse previous years and the story about insurance and waivers, and the posting I made for later this year.

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

@Scott - don't confuse previous years and the story about insurance and waivers, and the posting I made for later this year.

Terry, i'm curious about the previous year.

I was wondering if the previous invite was on the "Buds Net" or if it was an official request to attend, as some of those requirements don't make sense.

Either way, I think folks are getting the main purpose of these events cocked up. One is a pure MV event, the other is an appreciation event for families of CAF members. If you want to see HMV's, go to Oshawa. If you're a serving or retired CAF member and want to get your son or daughters face painted and have a hotdog, go to the CFSU(O) Family Day.