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Old 09-03-14, 05:59
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Just as an aside, the data plates that came with my CMP are very close to this one. However I was told my cab was from a C60 (its now on a C15a chassis). I cant verify it but I know at lease the dash was.
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Old 09-03-14, 06:24
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Hi Jordan

Not sure if there would be specific differences between the cab 13 of a C15,C30 or C60...... welll yes the obvious differences in the floor plate for the 2 speed T case.......

Remember that the Aussie contract was C60 with C15a small axle power train WITH the 2 speed T case. I have seen such trucks a few days apart in the construction dates with rectangular instrument clusters of the 1940 as well as the laetr round dials. Some with and some with out rood hatches.

Maybe GM was cleaning up on what was left on the inventory/shelves and gambling on such hungry clients it would not be noticed.... besides a lot of them never got to destination but in Davy Jones' locker.

Just out of curiosity.... what kind of instruments do you have...... besides the accordion you hide under your bed.

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Old 09-03-14, 06:28
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Maybe it was just the dash that came from a C60. My dash has round gauges.
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Old 10-03-14, 16:58
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Default May explain en gine cover issue.

The "blue" engine cover I brought down for you to try slipped in place like it was meant to do. I was thinking later on the origin of the engine cover.
It came from a C60L Aussie project rolling frame I acquired years ago.

No wonder it fitted so easily on yours.

Your old engine cover was dropped off by Grant On Sunday.....thanks for taking it to Acton.

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Old 10-03-14, 19:13
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At the risk of confusing things more, the parts books C15A-04 and C60S-03 each list the same two Motor Housings (the official term for the doghouse) for the 2nd type cab (Cab 13) with the note that when stock of 5804735 is depleted 5815002 should be used. This suggests that the two are interchangable but Jordan, Bob, Rob Clarke and I have all seen that there are (at least) two styles of cab frame and (at least) two shapes of doghouse that have different profiles along their join line so that they only fit the appropriate opposite part.

The same two part numbers are found in parts list 197 covering all models from C8 to C60L and CGT without any notes in any of the parts lists about only for arctic or cold weather equipped models.
The C60X-04 parts list gives the normal 5815002 but also gives 5825543 as being for use with arcticized equipment and also lists separate cab lower frames for "not used with heater and defroster option", "used with heater and defroster option", "not used with wireless supression option, aticized equiment or heater and defroster option", "used with wireless supression option" and "used with articized equipment".

The C15A-04 and C60X-04 are the last versions shown to be published according to a listing of pats lists published 1949, however the same list of lists shows C60S-04 and C60L-04 as having published but I don't have copies to look at to see if they show more choices of doghouse. C15A-04, C60S-03 and C60L-03 all list multiple cab lower frames paralleling those in C60X-04 without referencing a later doghouse than 5815002. If anyone has access I would be interested to know if later doghouse covers are referenced. The Chevrolet arctic equipment maual does not mention a separate part number for the doghouse but does mention the ones for the lower cab frame.

Jordan's original engine cover had the extra openings in the top face that may be associated with wading equipment. I don't have access to a Chevrolet manual on their wadeproofing kit to be able to tell if this gives clues on whether there was a separate doghouse for wadeproofed vehicles. (The Ford manual for wadeproffing equipment doesn't seem to list separate sheet metal but shows multiple vent lines passing inside the cab near the windshield center post.)
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My entirely complete PE-197 1944 had the later round guages, and the 2-speed T-case but I never used it. It still had the original tyres on it when I got it I believe they were 1050x20... Man were they heavy !!! I replaced them with NOS 900x20 military.. the originals were about 3 times as heavy
I only ever had to use the 4WD a couple of times, once in very soft earth with the truck sunk to the diffs.. both times the 4WD worked superbly.
It always started and drove like a dream; a regrettable sale for a number of reasons
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Old 12-04-14, 15:36
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I think Gerry has had this truck a long time. Dont know who made the box, but on my original the wheel wells extended to the inside. Also all these boxes should have metal rubbing strips running the length of the box floor. These are still standard size.. I think something like 1" by 1/4" ( maybe 3/8") x 12'
I think there should be 3. (although maybe 5..memory is a little fuzzy) one dead centre, and the 2 others equidistant on either side, and possibly two more closely aligned with the inner wheel wells.
Again these are standard still avail strips that can easily be added with short welds along their sides about every 2ft or so

My orig tailgate only had two footsteps, not sure if I've ever seen four. but they look well done.

Do you have the big attachment/restraining bar part that fits into the three holes in front of the box? (should be five holes at the front- one on either side for the top bows- 3 middle for attach/restraining bars --cab protection from cargo?)
It should be fairly easy to get one made up.. a squared-U shape with a central support (three down tubes) and a cross bar almost the width of the box.

The top bows extended down onto stops inside the side supports channels about a foot. eg nearly to the depth of the wheel well.

The front of the box should not have openings (nor at the back) in the bottom exterior channel-beam-rail or whatever you want to call it-- they were cut, maybe about 10" back (?) and welded to create a shallow angle inward to meet with the front of the box so as to be tapered and not to have a sharp edge to catch people or objects.

Again the tool boxes and especially pow carriers will be hard to get.
The tool boxes would be easy to get made,, and i suppose the POW carriers could be repro'd fairly easily although not exactly as the originals..all it takes is $

I havent seen this truck in person for eons, but Gerry is a reliable and honest person

There was another guy had a 3 ton in Longueil a few years ago, and when selling it, was telling a story about it's provenance, EXCEPT he was telling people the story of MY truck..not his !!!!! ie was used as a snowplough/firetruck in the small village of Hudson.

Mine spent almost its entire life indoors and cared for by the firemen, and so thats why it had so little rust and remained fairly orig.

I was promised (sincerely) it would remain in Canada, remain in its new "museum" home to be used in parades for veterans etc, and not be sold.. wonder where it is now?
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