OQF 6 pdr 7 cwt

[Dusonn]

Originally Posted by tankbarrell

Hi Dusan, thank you for the offer, it's no problem for me to make a box, it's what I do! Without a pattern however..... a drawing will be great.

Adrian,
a friend of mine made a drawing of the box. I hope this helps, if you need any more info contact me. I have also attached pictures of our replica box.

[Dusonn]

few more pictures. By the way does anybody know what the box should contain?

[Marc van Aalderen]

Hi Dusan,

Yes, I do. The rectangular hole is for the little tin with spare springs, split pins and other assorted small parts. I have a list in one of the handbooks that tells what exactly. These tins come up on Ebay regularly. The round hole is for a spare firing pin, possibly with the spring but have not yet tried to fit it.

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Cheers,

[tankbarrell]

Dusan, thank you very much for that, it's a great help.

[Dusonn]

As Adrian correctly noted there are two measurements missing on the box drawing. The length of the lid is 150mm, width of the box itself 68mm.
Hope these will help.

[Lynn Eades]

It's just great to see a friendly helpful spirit being exercised internationally. What a great forum we have.

[Dusonn]

We fitted the new wheels on our 6 pdr some time ago and it surely looks more accurate now.
Today some of our members washed the gun with soapy water from dirt and prepared it for a new respray. It will get a new cammo soon according to period photos as used by the Czechoslovak brigade. Will keep you updated.

[tankbarrell]

Originally Posted by Lynn Eades

It's just great to see a friendly helpful spirit being exercised internationally. What a great forum we have.

Here are the fruits of that international spirit!

Two Canadian pattern and two British pattern parts boxes. Thanks to Marc in The Netherlands and Dusan and Jiri in the Czech Republic for all their help. These should soon be on 6 pdrs in NL, Canada and the UK.

[tankdriver]

Originally Posted by Dusonn

few more pictures. By the way does anybody know what the box should contain?

Round hole is for the early M18(US number) scope, the square hole was for the battery for the lighted reticle.

[tankbarrell]

Originally Posted by tankdriver

Round hole is for the early M18(US number) scope, the square hole was for the battery for the lighted reticle.

Not according to the manuals. The 57mm M1 gun used a bigger box so you're probably correct for that. The M18 scope is over a foot long though isn't it? Not sure how you fit that in a 6" high box....

The 6 pdr box had the small spare springs and pins box in the square hole, what went in the round hole? It's not deep enough to take a firing pin spindle and it's not clear what the larger rim is for.

[tankdriver]

Originally Posted by tankbarrell

Not according to the manuals. The 57mm M1 gun used a bigger box so you're probably correct for that. The M18 scope is over a foot long though isn't it? Not sure how you fit that in a 6" high box....

The 6 pdr box had the small spare springs and pins box in the square hole, what went in the round hole? It's not deep enough to take a firing pin spindle and it's not clear what the larger rim is for.

The original small one that a buddy has, has a hole through the bottom of the box, and the M18 scope hangs down through the bottom, so he says. I have not tried to fit the scope in it. It looks like the one shown above has a hole in the bottom of the box. I have a early 57mm, and the early M1 is shown with the size box you show. I have a original large box for mine, but I am trying to swap it for the early type box. Both fit the holes in the right hand shield.

US Manual FM 23-75 dated June 44 shows 6 drawing of the small box on it, a Canadian parts manual dated 1943, shows small box, British pt # C54666 US pt# 01-24526. Not sure if they are different or not. US manual TM 9-303 April 44, shows the small box about 8 times, BUT, I have not been able to find a photo/drawing of the scope being mounted in one.



Most the war time photos of WW2 US 57mm that I have seen have the large box mounted. I saw one showing the early box, but it was a training photo, and not a combat photo.


Has anybody found any manuals showing the small boxes documented use?

[tankbarrell]

The British and Canadian box does not have a hole through the bottom, there are two inner shelves, the hole you see is through the lower shelf.

The British manual specifies items that go in the box but it only lists the 'box, spare springs and pins CM98'. There is nothing listed that would fit in the circular holes. It is clearly for something though, it is too complicated to not be for something specific!

[tankdriver]

Before I replied, I read through all my manuals, and all of the tell the #1 to remove the scope before moving the cannon, and to protect it, and store it. Just none of them say where or how.

I have either original copies, or reprints on all the manuals for the 57mm, but all are lacking with out a sergeant to tell you how to do what to do with things NOT told in the manuals.