Pat 12 gets a nose job

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Phil

I will have pictures of the panel in place on mine by tonite. Also have a spare panel I can send you...... can mail from UPS mid of next week.....will include pictures of the spare at the same time.

And if my failing memore is correct there are NO access panel in the original of the cab 11.....will check on a few cab 12 I have just to verify. Now there is a panel on the driver's side near the fuel pump. ....and I may have a panel that was cut up by the previous owner.

It will be a nightmare to install now that the rest of the sheet metal is on place.

Well I am off with my camera..

Cheers

[Bob Carriere]

None of those side panels have access panels like the right hand side.

Will post pics tonite..... and have a donor panel I can mail to you to use or replicate.

Bob C

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Phil

The first series of pictures are actually my cab 11 side panel which I opted to replace with a better one. It would be a good model to reproduce from. It seems that all my cab 11 and cab 12 are the same configuration..... with no access door.

You will noticed that all my trucks are named from who I got them from.... also keeps them easily identified if you have any questions.

You may wish to incorporate them on your site for future reference.

I have included text on each one.

If any one as any questions, comments or if my information is incorrect fire away.

May have to post the pics in more than one email.

Cheers

[Bob Carriere]

Note to myself......

next time use larger print size for text

[Bob Carriere]

.....so far so good.

[Bob Carriere]

Picture shows as 2.0 MB on my system

Let's see if the MLU system will accept it.

[Bob Carriere]

resized to 2.2 mb .....yet it shows up as 69 kb size when posted.

Enough for one night.

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Bob and everybody else who responded to the Need Picture of Left Front Engine Shield

Well I finally got around to fabricating the Left Splash Shield.

Here it is installed, note I did some field modification reducing the number of bolts that have to be removed to access the generator. It now has only three bolts to remove or install.
2017 C60L Splash Shield_0837.jpg

See next post for dimensions.

Next two photos show the unit being prep for spot welding.
2017 C60L Splash Shield_0797(1).jpg

2017 C60L Splash Shield_0795(1).jpg

Have not driven the truck much since installing but it noticeably reduces the amount of fan air coming out under the fender. But it also appears to increase the air pressure in the engine box so that any seem or joint on the dog house aimed at the driver now produces a stream of hot air. Spent the morning sealing and closing those gaps up.

My thanks for all the photos provided, once it was clear what the part looked like it was not difficult to cut and fit cardboard template. Once that was done then the steel was easy.

Cheers Phil

[Phil Waterman]

Hi

Hope these panel templates, with more readable dimension for the panels to fabricate the splash shield, are more helpful

W Pat 12 Splash Shield Side.jpg

Note the 1" holes are meant to over lay the side panel mounting bolts, with only 2 of them being used to attach the panel. The tap toward the front is bolted to the radiator frame using a carriage bolt with a thin nut to capture the bolt to the radiator frame which is them over laid by the tap with large washer and nut.

W Pat 12 Splash Shield bottom.jpg

On the bottom panel the two 1" holes over lay the frame rail rivets. This edge is covered with some anti squeaking material to allow for cab movement.

W Pat 12 Splash Shield Front.jpeg

Front of the shield just completes the enclosure.

As mentioned having both Splash Shields in place forces the air from the fan to flow through the engine dog house without all the air from the fan being exhausted into the wheel wells. Did some testing over the weekend in 80F air temp on long 10%+ grades down in second gear to see if it improves engine cooling or not. No clear difference.

Cheers Phil

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Phil

Love the way you over drilled the bolt holes to prevent having to tear down the whole cab assembly to access the panel.

I remember the headache I had trying to remember the sequence that needs to be followed in the cab re-assembly.

If you need any additional info let me know. I have not seen, at least in Eastern salted Canada, a cab11 or 12 that did not have these panels rusted to bits........ a bad design to start with but then they were not suppose to last 75+ years.

Been working reskinning the back lower portion of my roof....not progressing very fast. I had to redo the curved angle iron as I did not like how it did not follow the exact profile of the roof. The first was done with multi cuts bent and welded...... but everytime I weld the cuts the heat buildup changes the profile........ so I cut out the flat curved portion.....carefully bent the angle to shape than plasma cut and fitted a separate piece of suitable flat stock.

Now facing a catch 22....... once the cab is installed I can no longer drive it into the sea container. unless I intend to stay in the cab....... there is not sufficient clearance for me to exit. Without the roof I climb over the back and walked out. So now I must cut a suitable hole in the side of the container that will allow me to swing out the suicide door wide enough for me to exit.

Plans are to cut the almost square hole....... than build a 2x2 thin wall tubing frame..... fabricate a door also of 2x2 and use the cut out container skin to finish the door. so I need to concentrate my efforts on the container while slowly progressing on the roof........... the butt weld on the roof skin will be a very time consuming operation of tack and hammer and grind and tack hammer and grind until done.

Will try to remember to take photos for posting.

Cheers