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Old 01-03-15, 16:35
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Those look like the right clips.
I printed an inverted image of the unit and drew in where it looked like the folds are on the doors. The top fold on the right door is about 3/4" wide and the bottom and center folds about 1/4" with none showing on the hinge side. If they overlap the body of the unit this makes sense. The top is wider for dust protection, the hinge side can't have a fold, and the other two for strength. A quarter inch overlap on the bottom wouldn't get to the wires to cause problems.
The left door in Ron's pictures shows a line about a half inch on from the center edge. That could be the step Chris referred to. So maybe 20 or 22 gauge like car tin? I guess I'm talking old car tin!
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1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
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Old 02-03-15, 04:29
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The panel that the switchboard bolts to on the 8cwt CMP is called the radio instrument panel. They also mention the bracket-charging board-2nd type but no picture in the special patterns bodies book. I wonder what the two types were.
I went through all my pictures and found these showing different views of the panel. My box has the holes pictured for the mounting brackets shown. I measured the bolt spacing then did the picture sizing thing and came up with it being 40" x 12.5" and the mounting lug is 25" in from the left of the picture. The left bracket goes on just to the right of the fender ledge.
The brackets bolt to the box then angle back a couple inches before bending straight up again.
I'm not sure how the brackets are made. The part on the box has the flat face facing front and the part on the panel has it facing back. Any ideas?
They made the panel have that space between it and the locker so the canvas cover could go in the gap down to the twist buttons on the box.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 02-03-15, 06:58
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Well that is different to the British versions. The canvas is fixed with turn buckles around the edge of the box and the switchboard is mounted directly to the box/headboard.
Here is a shot that shows the three fixings and earth strap. Strangely in those other pictures of mine, the bottom bolt is absent?
Also I'm guessing the two top fixings must be outside the switchboard cabinet. Can I just see the left hand fixing in one of the pictures?

And I've started by ordering 4 strap hinges off ebay, So cheap and free deliver, that it's not worth visiting B&Q! I've scaled the hinges at 4".
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200906367104?ru=

I'll wait for these to arrive before I start pestering my local fabrication firm for off cuts. Ron
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Old 02-03-15, 21:03
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Ron,
Those hinges look the same as the ones I bought.
The Morris box is quite a bit smaller than the CMP one. The CMPs put the second set of batteries to the right of the radio with the remotes and stuff. They also have those lockers built onto the front of the box. What are those two units clamped down behind the set on the Morris?
With the doors not being as thick as I thought the sides of the panel box should be 4" wide instead of 3". Also the panel should be mounted 1" down in the box instead of 3/4". On mine the terminals will touch the doors. If you decide the panel was made of plastic use 3/8" plywood and plasticize it with urethane and mount it a bit lower to allow for the different thickness.
I straightened up the printing on the doors and made the image the proper size so you can print it out then cut out the lettering to have a stencil.
Those top bolts in your picture are too close together to be on the sides of the unit. They look like they'll be behind the panel. Quite a few of the CMP body pics don't show that bottom mounting lug hole either. Maybe it's a first or second version thing?
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2

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Old 02-03-15, 21:49
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Yep I have decided on 4" sides and just ordered some steel to be cut to size.
I've no idea what that is behind the set? Perhaps Mike will know. Part of the enjoyment for me, is the research and fathoming out what is what. Ron
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Old 02-03-15, 23:35
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Ron,
Those hinges look the same as the ones I bought.
The Morris box is quite a bit smaller than the CMP one. The CMPs put the second set of batteries to the right of the radio with the remotes and stuff. They also have those lockers built onto the front of the box. What are those two units clamped down behind the set on the Morris?
Interesting! They look very much like a pair of the "Static Battery Boxes" used with the Wireless Set No.18. This was a moulded bakelite case that took a selection of dry cells and batteries (2 x 60 volt, 3 x 12 volt (making 156 volts tapped at 12V for HT and grid bias) and either 2 x 1.5 volt "Cells Dry, O" in series, or 8 "Cells, Dry, X" in series parallel to provide 3 volts for the valve filaments. This pack had a 50 hour usable life. I'm fairly certain that's what they are, as the photo shows the case screws on the front and the web carrying strap on the side. I have the bottom half of two of these cases (stripped) - they were emptied out, the lids and fittings discarded, and a drawer knob attached for use as a parts storage system. :-(> I want a complete one for my 18 set, but no luck so far.

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Old 03-03-15, 00:37
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Sorry Chris but I meant the truck box.
Like the whole body on the truck that everything is mounted in!
From the cab to the endgate.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2

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Old 03-03-15, 01:02
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Sorry Chris but I meant the truck box.
Er, which truck box?

The two square cases directly behind the WS11 in that photo (at top right) are almost certainly WS18 static battery boxes. The 4 wooden-cased accumulators clamped to the floor in front of the set are for the WS11. I don't see anything else you could be referring to in that photograph?

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