Cab13 rear sliding window weather stripping

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Jordan Baker

Hi all.
Is there a modern source for the weather stripping used on the front cab windows. I believe it is a "T" shaped profile.
This will be used on a Cab13 Chevy.

Brian,

Do you have the same for the cab rear window?

Hanno

[David Dunlop]

Hanno.

Are you referring to the the metal flex core, twin channel felt covered item the two sliding metal panels mount into? SPAE NAUR used to carry it in their antique auto section of their catalogue.


David

[JoãoBoscoBarbosa]

Bob, good morning.

The cab sliding rear windows steel have a Rubber channel? Send me a picture about this, because I need manufacture and assemble, my truck not have this part in the past change for glass.

[Bob Carriere]

Hi JB

Teh rear window information you need would be with Phil Waterman..... my cab 12 are totally different..... and mine also are all glass. I think Phil refrabricated his rear windo BUT his roof is not finished yet and he drives it topless.

We may need a seperate trhead on the rear window frame and metal sliders for both cab 11/12 and cab 13....

Hanno can we slit this.... maybe something else was posted before that could be attached to thsi new thread...

Like hwy sheet metal and then glass... when did it change????

Bob

[Phil Waterman]

Hi All

Knew this question sounded familiar here are photos of one design of the sliding plates in the from a previous discussion of what they look like and what are the dimensions.
Pattern 13 Rear Cab Sliding Window

Page is slow loading because the picture files are large, pictures with ruler of the sliding plates are the third or forth item down under the heading Pattern 13 Rear Cab Sliding Window.

This is a page on my web site that I use to answer questions by giving people a link to specific photos.

Cheers Phil

[Jordan Baker]

Hanno or another moderator... Would it be possible as Bob suggests to split the posts about the rear windows from my restoration thread. I feel they will quickly get lost amongst my posts.

Joao, it would be best to ask your questions in their own threads. More people will probably see them and it will be easier to get a discussion going.

[Bob Carriere]

Thanks Phil

Have you done any work on your cab 12 rear window????

Cheers

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Bob

Haven't done anything with the roof or sliding window on the Pat 12. Do you need an measurements? Cab top is restorable just really needs new wood frame.

Cheers Phil

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Phil

Will drive mine like yours as a "Roadster" for a while. My roof will need some tender loving care.....and the window frame will need some attention due to rust at the bottom just focusing on the rear cab wall at the moment.

will have a pattern of the wood for you eventually.

Cheers

[JoãoBoscoBarbosa]

Hi all, Bod and Phil.

Thanks for help, now I know and I possible manufacture this windows.

Have rubber groove for two pieces separated?

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Jordan Baker

Hanno or another moderator... Would it be possible as Bob suggests to split the posts about the rear windows from my restoration thread. I feel they will quickly get lost amongst my posts.

Joao, it would be best to ask your questions in their own threads. More people will probably see them and it will be easier to get a discussion going.

Jordan, done & merged with existing thread on the subject of cab rear window weather stripping.

Hanno

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by David Dunlop

Are you referring to the the metal flex core, twin channel felt covered item the two sliding metal panels mount into? SPAE NAUR used to carry it in their antique auto section of their catalogue.

David,

That's what I am looking for, indeed.

I looked up their catalogue and found "Flexible Twin Channel C5" on this page: http://www.spaenaur.com/catalog/#K15 I this the item you refer to?



Thanks,
Hanno

[JoãoBoscoBarbosa]

Thanks Hanno.

Very good information, with the pictures and information I can manufacture this parts for my C-15A.

After I send a pictures.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

João,

I measured up the channel in my truck, and while it is approx. 1/2" high, the width less than an inch (approx. 7/8"), rather than the 1-7/64" (or 1.11") as per the picture in the catalog.

Now, the channel in my cab window is too narrow as the steel sliding plates can only be moved with much force (can't say they are "sliding", really).

But I do not know if the width of the SPAENAUR twin channel will fit the frame.

Who has tackled this job before and can help?!?

Hanno

[Jordan Baker]

http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/p-1516...w-channel.aspx

The above link has double channel that I think would work.

[JoãoBoscoBarbosa]

Hanno,

I will check tomorrow if have the double channel, I think use two single channel together.

My cover windows not have then I manufature other thickness and adjust. I will write about after.

[rob love]

The width of the Spaunur channel is a problem Hanno. While you can piece it all together, the windows will be so tight as to be near impossible to open. I have done a few, and until you wear all the fluff off the channels (at which time it is not much better than the channels which were replaced) you need a pinch bar to open them.

The stuff Jordan shows looks a lot better. There must be a North American distributor.

[Private_collector]

I think there is a company in Brisbane, Aust. that may have this also. I have not dealt with them in over 20 years, but have been told they are still going. Now I need toremember the name, or a search on interweb may get me there. I'll look tonight.

From memory, I think its called double bailey channel. (?spelling)

[David Dunlop]

Yes, that is the item I recall SPAE NAUR selling, however back in the late 1970's, they listed two options. Both were half an inch high, but the narrower item was three quarter inch overall width.

Somebody must be making this product somewhere in North America at the very least. To my knowledge SPAE NAUR is not a manufacturer. Just a wholesaler. I wonder if there were any commercial vehicles of the 1930's that had sliding windows that would have used this product? Panel vans, deliveries, buses or even the post war Mini Cooper?

David

[Eric R.]

Originally Posted by Jordan Baker

http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/p-1516...w-channel.aspx

The above link has double channel that I think would work.

Good find but the description says it is for 1/4 inch thick windows. That could be too wide. I would have to measure my sliders out in the barn but I am pretty sure they are less than 1/8 inch thick.

[Phil Waterman]

Hi

I have 4 sets of sliding windows none of them are made the same way. Some have folded edge lint the ones shown on my web page. The others have added steel strip at top and bottom.

If you can get the wider (1/4 type) to fit in the channel then the panels will actually slide one handed. Channels I have are a tight fit and it takes both hands to slide the plates, so what ever position they are in at the start of the drive is how they stay until I stop, turn in my seat and can use both hands. Which when you are driving in a convoy and starts raining means the back of your neck can get really wet.

Cheers Phil

[Jordan Baker]

I checked my panels while looking up the channel specs. My panels are 1/8" thick but then have 1/8" strips added to one side along the top and bottom edges. However as Phil says there is variations

The other thought I had was if you used the Speanur stuff is to make a 4mm spacer for the window frame.

[T Creighton]

I had to completely rebuild the back of my F30 cab.
A friend loaned me a Chev rear window frame and slide in good condition for a pattern so I made 2 slides and 2 frames 1 to weld into the back of the cab and 1 to bolt on over the track. I couldn't find any suitable track( all available stuff was too wide) so I fitted some single track over each of the slides and fitted a flat division between the two halves of the frame. That gave me two steel tracks. I works very well but unfortunately does not look original. A bonus was that I could drill some drain holes to the outside. Most rear windows I have seen have rusted badly because the rain gets between the track and the steel frame.
The frames were a bit tricky to make out of "Z" shape panel steel I had folded up. Some old diff carrier bearing cups were the exact radius of the frame corners and made a great welding jig.

Cheers, Terry

[Private_collector]

Terry, I think I want you to finish restoring my truck for me!

[JoãoBoscoBarbosa]

T Creighton.

I need know: in the channel have a rubber or slider doors sliding on the steel direct?
and have the plate between the doors? because the picture who you post have?!

[Phil Waterman]

Originally Posted by Private_collector

Terry, I think I want you to finish restoring my truck for me!

Hi Tony and Terry

Agree with Tony, but can't figure out which would be cheaper ship the truck out to Terry or fly Terry to my shop. Either way impressed with the component fabrication.

Cheers

[T Creighton]

Originally Posted by JoãoBoscoBarbosa

T Creighton.

I need know: in the channel have a rubber or slider doors sliding on the steel direct?
and have the plate between the doors? because the picture who you post have?!

Hello Joao,
I must tell you that my pictures are not correct for the CMP 13 rear window. It is this way because I could not find the correct twin felt track for the sliders to move in.
Not correct is the thin steel divider between the two halves of the frame and the material around the edge of the two sliders.
I built mine like this as I could not get the correct twin track that is held between the two halves.
In my pictures the frames and sliders are the exact copies from a Chev C60 CMP truck.
Good luck with your project. Please show us more pictures.
Best Regards,
Terry

[JoãoBoscoBarbosa]

T Creighton.

Thanks.

I manufacturing the rear windows then I need know all information and pictures about.