What model carburator is on the GMC Fox Armoured Car?

[lssah2025]

Stefan, that is not the carb we need, those are Solex 35-40 and I have 5 of them and they are the ones that were modified or used for something else.

This is the exact same carb and they work very poorly in low speed, gear, they are slow as >>>>>>

Originally Posted by Stefan Leegwater

Hi Jim.

If you look on Dirks Www.lwdparts.com at the canadian armour parts section, you will find that carb.

Cheers.

Stefan

[motto]

I must be on a different page of the lwd site. What I see is a Carter W1 which is stated to be of the type used on Canadian armoured vehicles and the C60X (6x6 truck). The C60X used a 270 cubic inch engine so this carburettor may also suit the Staghound T17E1 which used twin 270s.
Hope this is of some help.

David

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by motto

I must be on a different page of the lwd site. What I see is a Carter W1 which is stated to be of the type used on Canadian armoured vehicles and the C60X (6x6 truck). The C60X used a 270 cubic inch engine so this carburettor may also suit the Staghound T17E1 which used twin 270s.
Hope this is of some help.

David

Hi David,
It is on the page of parts for British vehicles.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Carter W1 is used on 216 Chev engines. The 270 GM engine on armoured vehicles and the C60X uses a Zenith 28A.

[lssah2025]

OK Canadian portion not UK portion, need new glasses, ohh yea I don't wear glasses, glad we figured that out

[Grant Bowker]

According to the C60X-04 parts list, the maintenance manual M660-C1and the service bulletins, early C60X used the Zenith 28AV11 type (also given as 28AVII) while later used the Carter W1-589S dust sealed carburetor. I don't know the Zenith part number but the GM part number was 5814938 and this should appear on the ID disc on top of the carburetor along with the Zenith number (28AV11 is a range, not a precise part number). I don't know the breakpoint for the changeover but suggest it might have been at the start of the 1944 production at the same time as the change in the brake system, T-case shifter, hub slings, moved coolant recovery tank, round gauges. I haven't seen enough original C60X to be able to confirm or deny the use of the Carter.

[Mike Cecil]

Not sure if this helps or hinders but my parts lists are as follows:

(1) C60X-03, dated January 1944, lists the carbie as 'Part Number 2135998, Carburetor assembly. (When stocks depleted use 5814938) (Zenith Model 28AV11).

(2) The Illustrated spare parts list for Canadian Armoured Car GM Mk.1, model AC-chassis 8446, dated March 1942, and relevant to contract numbers British: Supply Mechanical 1077; Australian D463/202H; Canadian CDLV 125 and 227, the carbie listed is 'Part Number 2135998, Carburetor assembly (Zenith Model 28AV11).

Neither list (1942 or early 1944) mentions a Carter carbie as an alternative. Note that the 2135998 change to 5814938 was 'when stocks depleted', rather than as a product improvement changeover.

Mike C

[Grant Bowker]

With C60X-03 dated January 1944 and C60X-04 dated January 1945 it seems that any change to Carter carburetors for the C60X would have happened (or possibly only been planned to happen) between those dates.
My list for the Fox (CAC-02, dated February 1943) also makes no mention of a Carter option.
In a listing of Approved Vehicle Parts Lists for Canadian Army Vehicles dated September 1949, CAC-02 and C60X-04 are the last published versions of the parts lists mentioned for the Fox and C60X respectively.
Based on these lists I would guess that the Carter could have been used in late C60X but wasn't likely used on the Fox. This doesn't mean that the Carter might not work well in a Fox since they both used the 270 engine, but there doesn't seem to be a parts listing of production of Fox with Carter.
It is quoted that there were 2710 C60X produced with about 1500 going to Russia. CDLV407 dated Dec 41 was for 500 vehicles (I believe this was the start of series production) http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7491. C60X produced in Aug 42 seem to have been CDLV 587 and Dec 42 to Jun 43 CDLV1516. I don't know how many were in the last 2 contracts mentioned, which other contracts existed for the C60X or the dates and numbers involved.