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Old 12-11-15, 12:27
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If you can come up with a 9th division stencil I will be happy to purchase one from you
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Old 13-11-15, 02:24
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Default King pin bearings and bushes, Ford CMP, 4x2.

Drove the grey truck into town this morning, to treat it to a pair of new batteries (as it turned out!). While there, I looked into having a wheel alignment done some time in near future. They did a preliminary check of all the components which might impact on alignment success. They found most things OK, but (and there is ALWAYS a but) there is play in noth king pins and a moderate amount in the steering box itself. The steering box issue I had already known about, but king pin wear was somewhat of a surprise.

Can anyone tell me a spurce for King pin bearings and/or bushes for the Ford 4x2 CMP, please? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Alternatively, if someone can tell me the measurements of the pins, bearings, and/or bushes, I can start scrounging for them.

On the brighter side, the truck actually sounds like is WANTS to fire up and get going, since the new batteries went in.

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Old 13-11-15, 03:28
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Tony I think the kingpins and axle are the same as the 1940/41 Ford civilian models so maybe one of the rear Ford spares places can help?
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Old 13-11-15, 11:02
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Thanks Cliff, I have seen some on ebay, but was hesitant. I've bought things in past which have subsequently proven to be incorrect.
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After lunch (and a brief nap) I made and attached the two cross braces for the rear of the gun shield. With a little daylight to spare, I started cutting out the main opening. Got the rough work done, and a small amount of finishing work. I managed to burn out a grinder doing the initial work. It won't be coming back to life, I wouldn't think. The filing required to get everything neat, is painful. I'll sleep well tonight.

My apologies, the photos are not great quality. I took them in a hurry.
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Old 14-11-15, 07:39
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Default Ford CMP king pins

I'm looking at this item on ebay:
NOS Toledo King Pin K97 For 38, 40-47 And 42 Ford Various Model Big Truckshttp://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Toledo-K...tSt2fO&vxp=mtr

Sounds right, but K97 doesn't mean anything to me. Add even mentions military trucks, but not CMP. Are these correct for 4x2 Ford blitz?
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Old 14-11-15, 14:56
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Tony,

The Ford part no. for the king pin is 81T 3115 for the 15-cwt and named "Bolt-spindle".
81T 3123A is the "Bearing-spindle bolt (Timken #T113 and Nice #5883)".
That may help in your search?

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Old 15-11-15, 00:16
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Thankyou Hanno, those numbers tell me the set/s I have been looking at on ebay are not correct for my vehicle. Each listing has different identification methods that do not necessarily include original Ford part number.
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This one has a kit number and bolt width is listed as 1+1/8". No mention of bolt length! Bolt part no. is indicated as 81T-3111, so I know that doesn't match. There is a VERY broad range of vehicles stated as compatible, including some "1942 Army models"

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This listing has modern kit number, and two measurements given, which I guess must be the bolt. At.0.822" x 5.860", I assume that is the bolt dimensions, BUT they are different to the first listing.

I'm finding all this quite confusing, as there is some overlap in stated compatibility, but when you look closer.......they are entirely different sizes!?!?! I suppose one could be oversize, but thats a big difference isn't it.
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