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Old 13-01-16, 01:24
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Default 17 update...

Got out the carpentry tools this weekend and built a couple of replicas of never seen, tough to find 17 pdr. ammo boxes,C-310 and C-274. I think I'm close, still a lot of detailing to do. Always looking for 17 PDR. shells and projectiles. Also see muzzle brake installed. Box seen is APCBC and my round is missing the cap, thus the box looks too long. Anyone have a cap? Shorter round is APC and it's box is shorter. Details on box lable marking would be appreciated. Cheers Rob
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Old 20-01-16, 00:25
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Default I know everyone here likes pics...

Cheers Rob
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Old 27-01-16, 10:38
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Default Jupiter foot pump?

Anyone here know the model of Jupiter pump/tyre/foot large listed in the accessories to the 17/25 pdr. gun? Cheers Rob
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Old 03-02-16, 00:37
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Default Sometimes you just have to fake it!

Woiuld love to find an original breech ring for the 17 pdr. but at some point you just come up with some semi accurate plans and go for it. See pics of crude plywood replication that I am working on. Cheers Rob
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Old 03-02-16, 03:32
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Mr. Fast.

When Shilo demils a weapon prior to disposal, any idea what they do with the parts removed/cut up? Buried on site somewhere? Sold for scrap locally? Could the latter be a dealer in Brandon? Any chance a few rusty bits might still be around?

Just a thought because of all the artillery pieces and armour that passed through MacDonald right after the war on it's way to Selkirk for scrapping, bits and pieces could still be found on the mill properties in the late 1970's. Couldn't hurt to look, if you knew where to.

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Old 03-02-16, 04:49
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David: You do know that the late 70s were only 20 odd years after McDonald closed down, but forty years back from now.

There will be nothing in the brandon scrapyard from Shilo. There was an oldtime scrapyard just off the first street bridge where the RCMP re-enactors picked up a tank barrel (possibly Sherman) back in the 80s to make their black powder cannon. But that yard is long gone, now converted into a park because the gorund is so contaminated the city could not build on it. The only scrapyard left does not hold onto metal, but processes it quickly and sends it on.

Things like breeches go to the smelter in Edmonton or Montreal. They do not get disposed of locally.
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Old 03-02-16, 08:29
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Do you need any measurement of the breech ring
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Old 04-02-16, 01:10
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Default Thanks for the offer Neils...

I think I have all I need here for a rough replicaton. Took a lot of measurements from the RCA Shilo 17 pdr. and have got some help from the 30th Field Museum. Looking for pics of breech cover? Cheers Rob
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Old 25-01-17, 23:31
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Got out the carpentry tools this weekend and built a couple of replicas of never seen, tough to find 17 pdr. ammo boxes,C-310 and C-274. I think I'm close, still a lot of detailing to do. Always looking for 17 PDR. shells and projectiles. Also see muzzle brake installed. Box seen is APCBC and my round is missing the cap, thus the box looks too long. Anyone have a cap? Shorter round is APC and it's box is shorter. Details on box lable marking would be appreciated. Cheers Rob
Just picked up a few real ones of these never seen boxes... will post some pictures when I get them home next week. One has a complete set of labels...both have good original stencilling on the outside.

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Old 25-01-17, 23:47
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Default Looking forward to seeing these pics....

and labels. Cheers Rob
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Old 26-01-17, 00:11
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Rob

For your c310, where did you get the internal arrangement from - what did you copy for this? Do your lids have corresponding sections attached to them?

My C310s are devoid of internal fittings... the others on the other hand have far more complex internal fittings that you have imagined in your repros.

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Old 26-01-17, 12:17
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Default 17 pdr. box repos

A chap down in Ottawa gave me the basic outer measurements, but indeed missed a lot of the internal drawings. I built my lids with no internal dividers attached to them, I put them in the box so I could display the rounds. Looking forward to any details with pics that you can provide here. Cheers Rob
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Old 26-01-17, 16:37
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Rob,

Your friends did a nice job on the muzzle brake. Reminds me of machining the muzzle brake for my Sexton. I started out with a 140 lb. piece of steel, and ended up with a 45 lb. replica.
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Old 26-01-17, 22:28
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HE box... 1943 dated... Think is missing one end packing piece which i assume was block with holes to protect primers.

The lid has blocks to hold the cases.

Note... Base of box is ply laminate.



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