AEC Matador gun tractor

[Lynn Eades]

Hi Phillip, It was still in the Merredin museum in mid 2014, when Rob Endersbee showed me through. She looked very smart, from the outside at least. A very classic vehicle! You have owned some impressive M.Vs.in the past.

[Philliphastings]

Hi Lynn, thanks

I have been very fortunate over the decades having owned, restored, preserved (and mostly driven) a fair variety of different Armoured and soft skin vehicles.

Having learned to drive in a Chevrolet CMP C15A 'Blitz' about 1979, I've never lost the passion. 10 years Army service only heightened my interest.

The AEC Armoured Command Vehicle was one of the highlights without a doubt.

I have also ensured that every vehicle I had went to a good home with only one notable exception - Daimler Ferret Mk2, ARN 115-328 which had been cut up and stripped. I sent the bare remains to the smelter...

Cheers

Phill

[Mike Cecil]

Rick,

The 1944 Manual was also released in April 1943, without the 'Air Publication' numbering in the top right corner. The contents of both the 1943 'modified for Aust' manual and the British April 1943 manual appear to be the same at first glance, so I don't know what the mods for Australia were. Any idea?

In any event, the 'Mod for Aust' would mean that the Matadors in Australia were a purchase from the UK, rather than refugee cargo as some of the OY Bedford appear to be. This would also support the idea that some of the (later) OY Bedfords were also a purchase, rather than all being refugee cargo.

The big difference between the Matador two manuals is the quality of paper: the Brit manual is on far better quality paper, with a hard card cover, compared to the 'austerity' paper and flimsy card cover used for the 'Modified for Australia' version.

There was also a small driver's handbook for the AEC Matador - my copy is also marked with the Air Publication number and is dated April 1944. All three of the publications I have were obtained in Australia, so all must have been supplied for use with the vehicles. Registrations are spread over two series, so I wonder if the Matadors arrived in Australia in two batches, several months apart? That might account for the 1943 v 1944 dated publications.

The cam pattern as pictured in the images in all the manuals is the Brit 'Mickey Mouse' ears black/green disruptive pattern.

Mike

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by Mike Cecil

Rick,

The 1944 Manual was also released in April 1943, without the 'Air Publication' numbering in the top right corner. The contents of both the 1943 'modified for Aust' manual and the British April 1943 manual appear to be the same at first glance, so I don't know what the mods for Australia were. Any idea?

In any event, the 'Mod for Aust' would mean that the Matadors in Australia were a purchase from the UK, rather than refugee cargo as some of the OY Bedford appear to be. This would also support the idea that some of the (later) OY Bedfords were also a purchase, rather than all being refugee cargo.

The big difference between the Matador two manuals is the quality of paper: the Brit manual is on far better quality paper, with a hard card cover, compared to the 'austerity' paper and flimsy card cover used for the 'Modified for Australia' version.

There was also a small driver's handbook for the AEC Matador - my copy is also marked with the Air Publication number and is dated April 1944. All three of the publications I have were obtained in Australia, so all must have been supplied for use with the vehicles. Registrations are spread over two series, so I wonder if the Matadors arrived in Australia in two batches, several months apart? That might account for the 1943 v 1944 dated publications.

The cam pattern as pictured in the images in all the manuals is the Brit 'Mickey Mouse' ears black/green disruptive pattern.

Mike

Hi Mike,
The 'modified for Australia" reference might be something as simple as the lubrication specifications. Not sure if Australia used the same designations for its oils and greases at that time, but also the ambient temperatures would mean changes to oil grades. I will search out my Matador manual.

regards, Richard

[lynx42]

Here is a photo taken, I think, in Melbourne sent to me by Cam F. I think it is the Shrine of Remembrance is in the distant background. The T&G Building was on the corner of Collins and Russell Streets, and still is but now not used by T&G. The park is still there but I can't place the oberlisk.

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These two are painted different colours, the back one is darker.

Regards Rick.

[David Dunlop]

These AEC's remind me of the FWD Tractors. Were they winch equipped, aft of the cab?

David

[Neilie (RIP)]

Yes they were but unlike the Matadors, the winch protruded through the floor into the body thereby forcing the crew members sitting on the front bench to share leg-room with it.

Cheers,

Neil