9.00-13 Tyres

[Alex van de Wetering]

So, what Ply rating is suitable for a 8cwt truck....C8/F8/Morris PU???

Until last week I presumed that the higher the ply rating the better.....but now I noticed that even though the allowed maximum weight increases along with the ply rating....the maximum allowed speed actually goes down.

Any thoughts on this?



It seems that most of the available 9.00x13 tyres (yes, all farm trailer tyres) are rated at 40/50 km/h maximum speed. The 6 ply BKT Sand Star is rated at 65km/h max, with max. 1000kg load.


Available 9.00x13 tyres and available Ply ratings:

Alliance 223
PLY: 8, 10 or 12.......all rated "A8"= 40km/h....but table also mentions 50km/h
http://www.atgtire.com/nl/ShowAllian...ls.aspx?id=734

BKT Sand star (ex Olympic pattern)
PLY: 6, 8, 10............first is rated "D"= 65km/h, the others "A8"= 40km/h
https://www.bkt-tires.com/en/pattern/sand-star

Harvest Sand Star (ex. Olympic pattern)
PLY: 6 ........rated "A8" = 40km/h
http://harvesttyres.com.au/index.php...nd-grip-detail

Trelleborg AF302
PLY: not known........rated "A8" = 40km/h....but table also mentions 50km/h
http://www.trelleborg.com/en/wheels/...tandard--af302

MRF Sand grip
PLY: 6...no speed mentioned
http://www.mrftyres.com


Info on tyre codes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code

[Alex van de Wetering]

So, is a 6 Ply tyre sufficiant for an 8cwt? According to the table the max load per tyre is about 1000kg. 4x1000 is more than the weight of a C8 + 8cwt load....so sufficiant? Or should one calculate with 3 tyres, in stead of 4?

To add to the discussion I have looked at the old 9.00x13 tyres I have here.

Picture 1 and 2 show Firestone 9.00x13
marked "S-6" (????), max load 15cwt
No ply rating

Picture 3 and 4 show Dunlop GP 9.00x13
marked "S-6"...no other markings that seem to suggest a max. load
No ply rating

[Alex van de Wetering]

Picture 1 -3 show Goodrich Silvertown 9.00x13
marked "S-4"...no other markings that seem to suggest a max. load
6 ply

Last two pictures are of a new Alliance tyre, which is indeed 8 ply

Alex

[gordon]

You are looking at a relationship between ply rating and allowable speed,and I don't think there is one.

The 40 / 50 will come from the maximum allowable speed for agricultural tyres in a given country - entirely independent of the ply rating.

Ply rating will normally set load though - a higher number of plies will carry more load - but as long as balance and weight is taken into account it should run up to any reasonable speed, although a thicker tyre will deal less well with heat build up.

As an example. DUKW tyres were 10 ply from the factory. In the UK they fitted 12 ply which were even heavier ( got that teeshirt ) but until the 10-ply were reproduced many DUKWs ran perfectly well on 8-ply Gama Goat tyres at the same maximum speed. I never heard of any issues from running them, but of course restored DUKWs would not be loaded like the originals.

So, legally you can run those tyres at 40 or 50 kph, but realistically I'd expect to be able to run them, duly balanced, at 40 or 50 mph. Of course if you run them at 50mph and you are involved in an accident of any sort, expect your insurance company just to walk away. A brand new quality agricultural tyre is probably a better bet than a 70 year old original, regardless of ply rating or original design speed.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Hi Gordon,

Thanks for responce and thoughts. You might be right that there is no relation; this was just my assumption based on the info I found in the tables. Indeed it could be that the speed rating is merely based on local max speeds for farm equipment rather than actual characteristics of the tyre. I hadn't though of that!

In the end I am just trying to find what tyre would be best suited for my C8. I am not planning to break any speed records, but it would be nice if I can drive the thing on B roads at a reasonable speed not crossing the max load with one or two friends in the back.

Alex