Info needed: Trailer socket Humber one ton

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

Hi Robert, and a cheery hello to another Humber owner.
Unfortunately I can't help you with your question, my Corio made one ton trailer does have a lead on it, which looks original although I have updated the plug for a modern 7 pin for convenience.
There is as much knowledge on MLU about the Humber as can be found, so if you have not done so may I suggest trying the "Search" button.
Please feel free to share some pics and history of the truck.
Rich.

[Dave Mills]

Hello Robert, know the trailer socket off by heart; the female section.
Unfortunarly do not yet own a Brockhurst trailer so cannot assist. I would however assume the there would be no intermediate cable just the direct coupling. Would like to see some pics of your resto as we have just completed our own ground up resto of a Humber and understand the complexities.

Dave.

[Robert Sexton]

Hello to Richard and Dave,thanks for the interest. As soon as I can locate some pics I will put them up. I have yet to learn the attaching method as I suspect my files are to large to upload.
The trailer is just about completed,just doing the wiring now.The trailer had a female plug just like the Humber and Champ,I can only presume to couple both together the lead would have to have two male ends.I have a parts manual for the trailer and it shows the female coupling on the drivers side drawbar.They are truly massive plugs and would carry a decent welding current.
The Humber is under restoration with the tray body just been completed.
I have a C60s also under resto and want to complete that as a priority. The chev is at the rolling chassis stage with engine and transmission back in and waiting to re-fit the body.

[Robert Sexton]

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Brockhurst one ton trailer,GS body.
Robert

[Richard Farrant]

Just to set the record straight, the trailer make is Brockhouse. I recall some were made by Joseph Sankey as well.

[Robert Sexton]

Thanks Richard I will make that correction. As far as I could find out they were referred to as Sankey trailers in Oz but were indeed made made by Brockhouse. This what it looked like when it came to me.

Robert

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

I hope the Humber is in better condition than the trailer!
Nice job.
Rich.

[chrisgrove]

Originally Posted by Robert Sexton

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Brockhurst one ton trailer,GS body.
Robert

Hi Robert

I have a much smaller problem than yours as I am a modeller making a small (1/76) model of the Humber and the 1 ton trailer. I do have a book on the Humber; it has a few pics of Oz trucks - but all are FV1602A - the FFW (fitted for wireless) version. Only one has a visible ANR which is 105-779.

I do have one question, if you would be so good, though you may not know the answer! Your truck dates from 1955 or so; maybe the trailer does too. If your trailer has the original lighting arrangement, like one red light each side mounted on the outside edge of the chassis (maybe an even earlier version had only a light on one side!), can you tell me where the number plate was mounted? I can cope with the lights, but where was the number plate?

Later versions had outriggers at front and rear on each side of the trailer with lights and reflectors and, in UK at least, reflective triangles. On these ones the rear left hand outrigger (looking from the rear) carried the number plate. But my trailer will be in service at Suez 1956 and is too early for this arrangement.

Oh, and I think you will find the number of your trailer is not 678K45, but 67BK45. I have seen pics of these trailers with numbers in the BK series (so were the Humbers), but 678K45 is not a British Army number.

Chris

[Robert Sexton]

Hello Chris,about the serial number, you are probably right ,the "eight" is a bit distorted and looked like a "B" to me. I will get a strong light and a magnifying glass to verify it.I have attached a pic (poor quality) as the trailer was when it came to me.The brackets for the tail lights were as you describe,one on either side with the bracket taking the Lucas with the red lens.Mine had late after market combination Narva lights ,definitely not original.The number plate was mounted central below the tailgate but I do not think that is original either as it was fixed direct to the chassis and not to a bracket. There are mounting holes for something central to the chassis at that point, I think it unlikely that it would be for a number plate bracket as that is covered when the tailgate is down and locked,it would be more likely to be on an outrigger on one side. Mine had the original reflectors (common to the Humber) mounted central on the lower part of the mudguard.In the centre of the tailgate is a metal triangle with nine cats eyes inserted in the three sides, the centre was painted red.
My Humber has 1954 stamped into the air cleaner and it would be likely that the trailer is about the same vintage.I have yet to find out out exactly how the trailer socket was connected to the Humber.
I couldn't even think of being able to work in the dimensions that you guys do. Regards, Robert

[chrisgrove]

Hi Robert
Many thanks for your extremely prompt reply. Just think how long that would have taken by snail mail!
Thanks also for the useful pic. It confirms what I thought about the lights - the one I have seen that has that arrangement has amber blinkers mounted, on a similar bracket, above the red rear lights. It also has a (civvy) number plate mounted a bit further to the right (further from the centreline) than yours, but it must be on some sort of bracket as it appears below the chassis. I begin to wonder if the number plate was originally mounted on the mudguard above the reflector.
My model may be small, but I don't have to contend with the degree of damage, rot and rust that you had to start with! I'll try and remember to put a pic on this thread when its finished.
Chris