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Old 24-11-17, 15:56
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I have a different question, which I'll post on here but if no answer in a few days I'll send an email. For overseas bidders, how can we pay for any winning lots? Is there any way to pay by Mastercard or Paypal, and then have one of our MLU contacts pick up the items?

As well, with regard to the VAT, am I safe to assume that by being an overseas bidder, the VAT is not added to our final bills?

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Old 24-11-17, 18:29
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I have a different question, which I'll post on here but if no answer in a few days I'll send an email. For overseas bidders, how can we pay for any winning lots? Is there any way to pay by Mastercard or Paypal, and then have one of our MLU contacts pick up the items?

As well, with regard to the VAT, am I safe to assume that by being an overseas bidder, the VAT is not added to our final bills?
Rob,

I would not wait with your questions to BVA auctions, send them an email rather than expecting them to answer here.

Regarding payment I read: “There are two methods of paying for your lot: simply and securely with iDeal, or by personal bank transfer.”

If you send your invoice to someone local he can pick it up for you by showing the invoice. I had reserved 6 December, but pickup dates have changed to 7 and 8 December which makes it hard for me to pick up stuff as I have other appointments on those days. I will try to rearrange my schedule, or find another MLU member to pick up items. I’m confident we can come up with a solution.

All for now and happy bidding!

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Old 24-11-17, 20:52
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Absolutely right Hanno. I have sent them an email, and will report the answers here.

When I do the exchange rates and add the buyers premium, I realize that whatever I pay for the item in Euros gets doubled in Cdn $$ before it even gets picked up, so for us Canadians, bid accordingly.
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Old 26-11-17, 16:51
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Last Saturday I visited the viewing day and had the pleasure to talk to Bert den Brok himself.

The first picture sums up nicely how he got into this hobby of collecting fire brigade equipment and army trucks: it shows his father on the roof of the ex-Canadian Army 15-cwt truck plus trailer serving with the local fire brigade. (Early post-war a lot of ex-army trucks were used by essential civil services like fire brigades.) Over the years Bert did own American military vehicles, but Canadian vehicles were his true interest because the region where he lives was liberated by Canadian units in 1944.

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Source: http://www.beeldbank-berghem.nl/

Mr. den Brok decided to downsize his collection because of redevelopment of the site where he had it stored for the past decades. During 45 years of collecting he has amassed a great selection of military and fire brigade artefacts. Parts of his collection were already sold in the past few years, the remainder is currently under the hammer: 2,000 lots which cost him 4 months to sort, catalogue and put on display for the auction.

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Also see:

http://brabantn.ws/7diM

https://www.bd.nl/oss/berghemse-verz...tems~a2fa79cf/

https://www.bd.nl/oss/kijkdag-berghe...ocht~acbdb491/

https://youtu.be/Npb2cnHPjsc

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Old 04-03-18, 21:43
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The first picture sums up nicely how he got into this hobby of collecting fire brigade equipment and army trucks: it shows his father on the roof of the ex-Canadian Army 15-cwt truck plus trailer serving with the local fire brigade. (Early post-war a lot of ex-army trucks were used by essential civil services like fire brigades.)
Found a picture of a C15A painted like the one which served with the fire brigade:

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Captioned: Berghem 'circa 1994'

Source: https://flic.kr/p/uduq5K
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Old 07-09-18, 14:30
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Hi all I know this is down the line a bit since the auction but does anyone know if the limbers sold in the auction ( looking at the auction site they didnt) Does anyone know if they are still available ? Thanks Richard
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Old 07-09-18, 15:51
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Hi all I know this is down the line a bit since the auction but does anyone know if the limbers sold in the auction ( looking at the auction site they didnt) Does anyone know if they are still available ? Thanks Richard
Hello Richard,

Try contacting Bert den Brok via his MLU profile - http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/member.php?u=6103 - to get first-hand information.

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Old 26-11-17, 16:59
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Default The story behind the auction part 2

Star of the show - for me - is the Ford FGT. It was restored from a wrecked chassis found in Belgium, while the body came from Portugal. Bert went over to see the famous cache in Portugal, but found the owner of the scrap yard very difficult to deal with (as did others). He managed to find another body in Portugal, and brought it home on a dual axle trailer towed by his Audi 80. The Spanish police pulled him over to check the weight of his load! It took quite a few years before the FGT was completely restored. It comes complete with limber, 25-pdr field gun plus a complete set of tools.

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Another interesting truck is the F15A which came from a Belgian fire brigade. It ties in nicely with what sparked Bert's collecting.... It comes with a 2H1 body and would make for a nice restoration.

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In a way, Bert is saddened by having to auction off his collection as it is the end of an era for him. Here's hoping Bert's collection is handed onwards to other collectors, possibly of the next generation so these artefacts will be preserved for many more decades.

Hope this is of interest,
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Old 29-11-17, 19:09
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I managed to pick up a half dozen items I needed for my 25 pounder. Seems like the majority of the lots did not sell, and the bulk that did were single bidder. I don't know if it's because we are too close to Christmas, or if there are better prices out there that I don't know about.

Did anybody else manage to buy stuff?
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Old 29-11-17, 20:43
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Congratulations Rob.

I went to the viewing day and it was nice to meet some fellow collectors there.
There was much to see and it was great to hear the stories behind some off the items.

I didn't buy anything in the end.
Maybe I should have made a bid on a few items but that is how it goes.

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Old 29-11-17, 23:14
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I sure wish the stuff was closer to me....I certainly would have bought more.

In the end, once I managed to register (the auction site did not like gmail accounts for an email address) the bidding was quite good. You could open up all the tabs of stuff you wanted to bid on, sort them as to their closing time, and then work on each one by one until it closed. Any bids in the last 5 minutes would lengthen the auction, so there was no real sniping like on ebay.

I still have a more items I will need to complete my 25pr, but this puts me 6 items closer.
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Old 29-11-17, 23:19
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Hi Rob,
I was at the viewing day too, just like my friends (see posts before .. )
Won a couple of items, so have to pick them up.
If I can assist with your purchases, let me know.
regards, Egbert
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