1941 Ford V8 C11ADF Staff Car (11A-79)

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Jordan Baker

I believe this was the same car. From back in 2009.

Indeed, it must be the same. It looks it is fitted with 16" wheels, or do I see things wrong?



Plus the last three pictures:

#50-1941 Ford Military Staff Wagon

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[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Indeed, it must be the same. It looks it is fitted with 16" wheels, or do I see things wrong?

16 inch wheels would surely be correct? It was the C11ADF that had the 13 inch wheels and the heavier axles.

[Ian McCallum]

Just seen this post for the first time. It certainly appears to be the same vehicle that was sold about 2009 I think. If you look at the three quarter photo I have posted you can see it is fitted with the F8 rear axle, so assume semi-elliptical springs, which would make it ADF transmission configuration. Extended rear wheel arches also correct but it is should be on 900x13's although it appears to be on 16 inch wheels which have a strange centre. Interestingly one of the photos from the original sale collection shows the dash which is not fitted with the three auxiliary switches for Dash, Convoy and tail blackout which was standard on both the C11ADF and C11AS models? Is it genuine?

For clarification the C11AS (Special) was a military specification based on the 1941 C11A Ford Deluxe Station Wagon. (torque tube, standard axle and transverse spring) 16 inch wheels and was a seven seater. The C11ADF was fitted with F8 axle, prop shaft and semi-elliptical springs but still on standard car three speed box and column change and fitted with 900x13's.

Information I have indicates 235 C11AS's were produced, which included a few 42 model, and 633 C11ADF's , all shipped overseas. I am currently in the final stages of refurbishing a C11AS here in the UK.

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[Ian McCallum]

Regarding the American rear lights mentioned, I would assume these have been fitted to provide stop/tail and indicator in a 'military' configuration.

Originally both models were fitted with a single early pattern rubber tail light on each side. I followed this original configuration but had to fit two each side to give all required road legal lighting.

Just noticed the auction vehicle is fitted with the wrong rear bumper. The C11AS was fitted with a bumper of the same profile as the front, which was to offer protection for the spare wheel and carrier. The C11ADF however was fitted with a straight bumper as the spare wheel was stowed in the rear body space. Tow /tie down rings were only fitted to the AS model.

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